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Supervisor Kate Murray's Rain Barrel Program: What Residents Should Know

About Supervisor Kate Murray's Rain Barrel Program

Kate Murray recently announced a home based rain barrel initiative to encourage residents to be more environmentally conscious. The barrel is sold by the town for $45 and is used to collect water from your home's gutters. Before you order one, you should consider some water usage facts.

The first thing is, this product is only useful for about seven months of the year, April through October.

Second, it is not really useful for watering a the lawn, unless you are watering by hand, because there is not enough pressure to run a lawn sprinkler. Yes you can use an electric pump, but this uses more energy than using the water you receive from your local water district.

Third, according to the United State Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)1 it takes about 24 gallons of water to make one pound of plastic. The barrel the town is selling weighs about 15 pounds. This means it took about 360 gallons of water to produce the barrel.

Fourth, residents need to look at how much they could potentially save using the barrel. In Franklin Square, where I live, residents pay about .19 cents per gallon of water. If residents were able to collect and use an average of 50 gallons of water (one barrel) per week seven months of the year, they would save about $2.70 per year on their water bill. With the cost of the water barrel being $45, it will take almost 17 years to recoup your investment.

If Supervisor Murray really wants to conserve water, she should reduce Town mailings. It takes 2.6 gallons of water to manufacture one sheet of paper2. The Town of Hempstead sends out about 25 mailings per year or two per month. If Supervisor Murray eliminated just two mailings about 1.3 million gallons of water would be saved.

Supervisor Murray should also offer residents the option to receive town mailings by email.

For every resident that uses the email option, about 65 gallons of water and more than $4 in postage, would be saved each year.

1 http://media.mgbg.com/wkrg/photos/weather/downloads/Water_Facts.pdf

2  http://blog.docusense.com/environmental-solutions/01/how-much-water-does-it-take-to-print-a-sheet-of-paper/

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Cecelia Sommers August 21, 2012 at 06:56 pm
another example of waste fraud and abuse from the town of hempstead i would not give them any money for their special funds whatever that means,
Frank August 21, 2012 at 07:48 pm
@ Felix. Excellent points. Shows you how little common sense ToH has (add Nassau County to that list) - - makes you wish an engineer and an economist could just take over shop and knock Kate back to pruning her garden.
However, you have to admire the marketing. Big green lettering - saving water - saving the environment - saving the earth - the average ToH would eat it up and who wouldn't want to cough up $45 bucks for the environment? And they'll do it because they think they're saving the world. Just to show you how hypocritical this new rain barrel program is, look at another environmental issue: 1. FACT The ToH and Nassau spew a Supertanker a day of sewage and chemicals into the Western Bays. 2. FACT The island park power plant is using a single pass cooling system (aka "once through cooling" (OTC)), drawing 64.5 million gallons a day of bay water and pumping it back at higher temps. 3. FACT Shell fishing is banned in the Western Bays 4. FACT - We flare methane (biogas) from sewage plants with impunity 6. FACT - Poor pollution controls over the past decade has caused major headaches for everyone. Instead of cleaning up the Western Bays by: 1. Install Cooling Towers at Island Park Power Plant recovering 99% of water used. 2. Move the outfall pipes into the Atlantic 3. Recover biogas and power generators eliminating the purchase of 1 million gallons of diesel fuel/yr. 4. Allow ocean flushing of the bays We ask people to buy rain barrels. ROFL
Laurie Lat August 21, 2012 at 09:37 pm
I'm not surprised, look what a mess she made of the animal shelter, with 7 million dollars. This is another reason why I'm proud I didn't vote for her and I spit at the "color" mailings when they come and ;pick up my dog's poop with it.
Dean Miller August 21, 2012 at 09:37 pm
I couldn't agree more. Believe it or not, when I did have my vegetable garden, I did use a rain and recycle water can. Want to be more green? (And lets face it, this program is not about being green, but more about staying in the public eye with something that is less, or not negative). Start by using e-mail instead of all the "junk" mail that we receive from politicians, about what they are doing and why they are doing it. I know, not everyone uses e-mail, but how about giving us an option to "opt out" of the paper and send it to me by e-mail. Give me the option to read your info or not if thats what I choose. It saves money on paper, stamps, and the man hours that go into producing and distributing them. I get it, people get paid to do that work, and without it, you will tell me that jobs will be lost.... If half the effort was put into streamlining these processes........ "thats just my opinion, I could be wrong"
Daud Mohammad August 22, 2012 at 12:25 am
Come on everybody, we must make our voices heard. We need to get her out of that office (of being Supervisor). We need to make HUGH efforts in voting foa an opponent rather than her. We cannot tolerate her mismanagement if our tax dollars and then telling all of us she has not increased taxes. Mr. Felix I personally give you so much credit in spending so much time in finding these UNBELievable practices of Kate Murray. We need the County to take over the TOH! I know you all might think this is horrible, but we really need CONSOLIDATION of services to bring us out of this rut we are in. By continuing with the status quo, we will not get anything done. We need to keep our young people HERE where they belong,
Mr Dunes August 22, 2012 at 01:09 am
Indeed!
Cecelia Sommers August 22, 2012 at 11:53 am
its not just her its the whole panel they play musical chairs and also if your not happy with her you have to go to her GODFATHER who originallly appointed her and let him know your not happy you can't just vote her out do you know who your dealing with? so start writing letter to the chairman of the board.
LLama August 22, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Wow, poor Kate. I guess she didn't see this coming. Frank, I commend you. You are clear and precise and have enough facts to prove your point. I just hope someone from the TOH see's this blog. Maybe they would learn a thing or two. As a Nassau County resident I would like to Thank You! And yes people need to step up and be proactive. Voltaire said it best.
The College Whisperer™ August 23, 2012 at 01:59 am
Felix, you prove, yet again, that an educated consumer is the best customer. Or, as your well-researched missive demonstrates, the worst enemy of wasteful government!
Plan. Prepare. Prevail! http://www.TheCollegeWhisperer.com
Susan August 23, 2012 at 10:52 am
When I first read about the water barrel I thought it sounded insane. Common sense told me and now you have proved it. Thanks Felix.
S.M. January 6, 2013 at 02:49 pm
Yet we all keep voting her in
Vincent January 6, 2013 at 05:31 pm
S.M.: With many of the aeas surrounding the Town of Hempstead electing pols of the Democratic party ie: Kaiman, McCarthey, Ackerman (now retired thank God), Israel etc.. why do you think that this one Town keeps voting her in? Just asking.
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