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Billy Dean's Cabaret Application Rejected, Car Seat Safety Inspection

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Court Upholds Zoning Board's Denial of Billy Dean's Wantagh Cabaret Application

The Supreme Court of the State of New York announced Monday that it has upheld the Town of Hempstead's decision to reject North Bellmore strip club owner Billy Dean's cabaret application for a proposed Wantagh nightclub/restaurant on Sunrise Highway.

Dean's suit against the town argued that the Hempstead Board of Zoning Appeals should have never revoked its original June 2010 approval for cabaret usage on 3500 Sunrise Highway in Wantagh.

The zoning board decided last March to schedule a rehearing of Dean's application under the name Green 2009, Inc. due to vocal opposition that mounted against the development, as well as a belief that not enough people were notified of the original hearing date.

Town Announces Car Seat Safety Inspection Summer Schedule

Hempstead Town has announced the summer schedule for the Child Car Seat Safety Inspection Program. The town's certified child passenger safety technicians will inspect and properly install child car safety seats and instruct guardians on their proper installation. State law requires that children under the age of 8 are restrained in an appropriate child restraint system when riding in a motor vehicle. 

Town technicians have received rigorous training and are certified by Safe Kids Worldwide, a coalition of 450 health and safety experts, educators, foundations, governments and volunteers.

Inspections take place by appointment only between the hours of 9 a.m. and 2 p.m. Guardians are asked to provide information in advance about the child's age, weight, height and current car seat. Space at each inspection event is limited and appointments are made on a first-come, first-served basis. The service is provided free of charge.

Appointments may be scheduled by calling the Town of Hempstead Department of Public Safety at (516) 538-1900, extension 217.

The schedule for the car seat program is as follows:

  • June 6-7: Uniondale - Uniondale Park, 710 Uniondale Ave.
  • June 13-16 (Sat): Baldwin - Baldwin Park, 3232 S. Grand Ave.
  • June 20-21: Franklin Square - Rath Park, 849 Fenworth Blvd.
  • June 27-28: Wantagh - Forest City Community Park, 3099 Morgan Drive
  • July 5-7 (Sat): West Hempstead - Echo Park, 399 Nassau Blvd.
  • July 11-12: Island Park - Shell Creek Park, 30 Vanderbilt Ave. & Traymore Boulevard
  • July 18-19: Valley Stream - Hendrickson Park, West Merrick Road, 1/4 block east of Fletcher Avenue
  • July 25-26: Westbury - Salisbury Park Drive Ballfields, 2330 Salisbury Park Drive, East Meadow
  • Aug. 1-2: Oceanside - Oceanside Park, 3800 Mahlon Brower Drive
  • Aug. 8-11 (Sat): Bellmore - Newbridge Road Park, 2600 Newbridge Road
  • Aug. 15-16: Elmont - Elmont Road Park, 755 Elmont Road
  • Aug. 22-23: Lakeview - Harold Walker Park, 1085 Woodfield Road
  • Aug. 29-30: Levittown - McLaren Field, Loring Road, Levittown
  • Sept. 5-6: Point Lookout - West Marina, Lido Boulevard, Point Lookout
  • Sept. 12-13: East Meadow - Speno Park, 745 East Meadow Ave.
  • Sept. 19-23 (Sun): Five Towns - Rock Hall Museum, 199 Broadway, Lawrence
  • Sept. 27-28 (Thurs/Fri): Floral Park - Centennial Hall, 29 Tulip Ave., Floral Park
  • Oct. 3-4: Seaford - Seamans Neck Park, 2700 S. Seamans Neck Road
Patrick May 22, 2012 at 12:14 am
Which web site?
Chris Wendt May 22, 2012 at 12:20 am
Patrick, I am fine with everything and anything you choose to say or choose to believe. Honestly, go for it, buddy. I am not trying to change your mind or stifle your opinions. As a matter of fact, I think it would be patently wrong of me or anyone else who contributes here to overtly, deliberately attempt to change your thinking about anything.
I come here to contribute my ideas, to share the shining products of my own beautiful thought process; not to engage in what you glibly refer to as the art of debate, but which is really the art of THE BAIT, often called Troll bait, which, no matter how you dangle it in front of me, I ain't touching! I love you Patrick. Peace!
Patrick May 22, 2012 at 12:51 am
I figured as much. I am not trying to bait anyone, just relaying facts directly related to the situation at hand, and hoping anyone opposed to this can dispute them. No one seems to have the gumption, or any information to contest what I have said. Chris, it is you who have put yourself out here for this "debate", which is an apt term. But when faced with cold hard facts that are contrary to what you have stated, and you are asked to respond, you and all the others who have fallen silent do just what anyone who can not defend their position does.
In the immortal word of The Jefferson Airplane: You just run, run, run , runaway Just run, run, run, runaway "The shining products of my own beautiful thought process"....absolutely priceless. Surely you jest.
Lorraine DeVita May 22, 2012 at 01:54 am
Patrick, throwing my 2cents in -
I dont think anyone is disputing the facts as you state them, because they dont care, because they DONT WANT the establishment in their neighborhood. Now while you might be able to debate facts, these are their facts, their feelings, their neighborhood , their homes, their values etc. so to them its equally as important to be able to voice their opinion, and their opposition as it is yours to voice your opinion. and support. however as of right now ALL this is only opinion. Until the ink is dry on the final decision by WHOMEVER. whether thats in an appeals court, or Mr Dean perhaps decide to move on & cut his losses it is still supposition, opinion and truthfully people including yourself dont actually KNOW .. the only person who knows what MR Dean is going to do IS Mr Dean and right now he needs to understand the neighbors arent going to make it easy- So does he throw even MORE money into this and fund escalating legal fees ad infinitum , while his business property remains unopen which is also costing him money in the hopes of winning an appeal or does he say enough and move on.. THATs his call not yours not mine not anyone elses whether we support him or not..
Rebecca May 22, 2012 at 04:00 am
Devil's advocate here:
Let's say Billy Deans got its cabaret license. It's not like any kids would get anywhere near the place during the late hours when the cabaret would be active. Not to mention, the site is not residential. It's on SUNRISE HIGHWAY. I grew up behind the Sunrise Highway auto dealers in Seaford/Wantagh, so I'm well familiar with the area. And Sunrise Highway is not residential. If I didn't know better, I'd say Kate Murray paid Billy Dean to go for this license, just so she could have something to grandstand against. Personally, I think she should read Fifty Shades of Grey and get that stick out of her butt LOL!
Chris Wendt May 22, 2012 at 09:54 am
@ Patrick..Jefferson Airplane? Nah, Del Shanon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TLLcvWeiKw
@ Patrick "Surely you jest." Okay, if you say so.
Patrick May 22, 2012 at 11:32 am
Lorraine, once again you are wrong. If these people are so concerned about their neighborhood, why did it take them a year to speak up. The building did not go up overnight. You say "that establishment in their neighborhood" what establishment is that? You are correct that they voice their opinion, but their opinion is flawed, because they continually disregard the FACTS of the situation, and refuse to listen to anyone else, because they don't care about the facts. These people are just like the children they are trying to protect from nothing. They don't listen, and when pressed to back their position, they just yell louder. I have a 5 year old who does that. You continually say I don't know anything about this, on what do you base that? The oppositions platform is and always has been based on supposition. Even when given facts, they ignore them. These are not rational people, because rational people take into account all the facts before forming an opinion. His neighbors have nothing to do with this right now, it is out of their hands. But they and you will pay in the end, as it is you the taxpayers in the TOH who are footing the bill on both sides.
Lorraine DeVita May 22, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Patrick,
You yourself have "labled "people- without knowledge of who they are personally based on your PERCEPTION of them. Yet you dont want to accept the fact or possibly UNDERSTAND the fact that Wantagh neighbors have :LABLED Mr Dean & his Establishment based on his public persona as it pertains to his perceived prior behaviour in his establishment in a neighboring area. Good Bad or indifferent His reputation preceeds him and based on that poeple are fearful.. I am not looking to argue with you. either way any case before an appeals court if thats the route taken will not be made or lost on the Patch..Thats why we have courts. Mr Deans decision again will BE Solely Mr Deans decision hopefully for his sake based on sound practical business and financial reasons. I would hate to see ANY hard working business person financially go down the tubes to prove a cause,however "right" they feel the cause is> no ones pockets are bottomless. You also have to as Chris mentioned take a look at the HISTORY of the location NOTHING has worked yet when relocated some of those same have thrived. Whatever the venue was it failed miserably costing the owners $$$ and probably heartache as well. Perhaps a lightbulb needs to go off in someones head and say this isnt the location for ANY type of hospitality business, perhaps it needs to be looked at in a different light to support a different type of business altogether. Perhaps a Retail business..
EJ48 May 22, 2012 at 02:40 pm
Is there a link to the decision?
Is this judge elected and if so when is he up for re-election?
Lorraine DeVita May 22, 2012 at 03:31 pm
Mr Dean has two choices open to him
A) take the appeals route, which given the odds are 50-50 WITHOUT THE FACTS- thats 1 million dollar ++ gamble on anyones part. B) Cut his losses, put the building up for sale and SUE the TOH for jumping the gun without doing its due diligence in the first place and granting the inititial approval so he can recoup legal fees and any moneies not relaized in sale fromt he imporvemnts he invested in plus whatever else to insure HIS losses are compensated for. . While the community at Large is vocal and vigilant it also can not deny that there has been some issue with the way the process has been handled by the TOH. Mr. Dean is entitled IF he walks away with some form of compensation to insure he atleast recoups some of his investment. This would be a win win situation for all including Mr Dean.. Well, accept for the TOH which can be construed as ultimately the taxpayer. The TOH has been sued before and will most likely be sued again i am sure their are contingency funds to accomodate this somewhere hidden in the basement of the Admin.offices.in Hempstead.
Chris Wendt May 22, 2012 at 04:30 pm
There are two ways to recoup some of this investment:
1. Open a business there that does not require a cabaret permit, or, 2. Sell the property. Thoughts of successfully suing the Town, now, to recoup any of this "investment" are specious. The result of the monetary investment is a piece of real property that has now been developed into an asset that can either be deployed to generate revenue, or, liquidated to generate cash.
Steve May 22, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Billy Deans Green 2009 Inc Decision
http://issuu.com/publiclifejournal/docs/billy_dean_green_2009_inc_wantagh_decision_001
Steve May 22, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Town of Hempstead Wins
http://www.townofhempstead.com/news/681-hempstead-town-wins-supreme-court-upholds-boards-denial-of-wantagh-nightclub-permit
Steve May 23, 2012 at 01:41 am
http://bellmore.patch.com/articles/billy-deans-boa-public-hearing-to-be-held-wednesday#comments
Is this the same owners?
EJ48 May 23, 2012 at 01:26 pm
Thanks
Lorraine DeVita May 23, 2012 at 02:25 pm
Chris you are forgetting the TIME & money invested in legal pursuit and loss of revenue... while i dont agree with this whole cabaret thing i DO think the man regardless of what we think of his business ventures is entitiled to some form of compensation from the town simply because the TOH/BZA screwed up intitially ..The property is /was usless denying the man an income on his investment. Again regardless of the the TYPE of business , distasteful or not he still has to pay taxes, mortgage payments, utilities etc receiving no income on the property while this plays out on the local level. If he pursues further legal recourse then its on HIS time at his insistance and his dime the compensation should only cover from the time the bza gave its initial approval and gave him the go ahead -to the time it was denied and upheld in court. ANY costs for improvements to the property will be realized in the sale of the building if he choses to go that route.
Chris Wendt May 23, 2012 at 02:32 pm
Steve, it really does not matter who owns what in these two separate cases. Attempting to make some connection, or worse, an issue out of ownership, could be construed as a personal agenda instead of two separate administrative issues.
The Wantagh property is owned by Green 2009, Inc. The North Bellmore establishment is owned by Look Entertainment, Ltd. Each is its own deal and must stand (or fall) on its own merits and the law.
Chris Wendt May 23, 2012 at 02:40 pm
Lorraine, the Town did NOT "screw up initially". I have not forgotten or overlooked any efforts taken in pursuit of this now-rejected endeavor. There is never any guarantee of a certain outcome, much less any guarantee of financial success for any business. Therefore, nobody can make the case that a business "lost" $X dollars as the result of administrative proceedings that did not go the way the business had hoped it would have gone.
Note well that monetary damages were NOT claimed in the recent suit. Having done so would have garnered a summaray judgement in favor of the Town BZA. End of story.
Steve May 23, 2012 at 05:37 pm
Chris-So, as two separate locations and cases the Wantagh location could open as a restaurant with the zoning the property had at the time of purchase,"vested property rights". And, as two separate locations and cases, any "special exception" such as a special permit, special use permit or variance does not run with the property or business, and can be granted, rescinded or revoked by the TOH Board of Zoning Appeals.
Junior May 23, 2012 at 07:04 pm
Jefferson Starship - Runaway 1978
Chris Wendt May 24, 2012 at 02:23 am
Essentially correct. There are certain variances which could run with the property, such as setbacks, maintaining a deck or outbuilding, fencing height, or building height.
There is another curious thing to consider with 3500 Sunrise. The house next door. Is it part of Green 2009? Are or were there plans to connect or attach the two structures? To upgrade the 'house' to the proper fire code appropriate to some use other than as a single family dwelling? Like a dormitory or hotel/motel? Food for thought.
Andrew Coen (Editor) May 24, 2012 at 03:45 am
@Patrick- Please refrain from personal attacks. Thank you.
Lorraine DeVita May 24, 2012 at 11:24 am
Chris, simply put chris, ONe of the reasons the judge upheld the reversal was based upon the fact the community wasnt given sufficient notice . My question is WHOSE responsibility is it to notify the neighbors the Towns or the Properties Owners. If its the towns then yes they DID mess up by not informing the homeowners in the areas in a thorough and timely fashion and not reviewing the plans sufficently and not giving the community sufficient time to refute or voice objections. .. If it is the property owners /contractors responsibility then you are correct.
Patrick May 24, 2012 at 11:25 am
Andrew, please tell everyone why the comment was was removed, and what the attack was. Chris said foof for thought, I said choke on it. innocuous at worst. I didn't say I hope you choke. CHris' statements were inane and baseless, all I did was bring that to light. Please repost the statement, it was not an attack, I bet Chris would agree.
Lorraine DeVita May 24, 2012 at 11:36 am
The JUDGE left the gate open for a CIVIL suit to be filed against the TOH based on his REASONS for the reversal. A civil suit which does not need to be argued at the time of hearing. Was the Judge correct in upholding the reversal. 100% yes... However what needs to be addressed is the TOH and BZA's process and possibly the reclassification of ADULT entertainment as something separate and other then a Cabaret. Lets be honest He wasnt opening a "chucky cheese" or a "family" entertainment cabaret. and thats where the distinction (if there ISNT one now) should be. The classifications need to be tightened and expressly redefined /categortized so this doesnt happen in the future.
Patrick May 24, 2012 at 11:44 am
Lorraine, did you read the decision? There was NOTHING regarding notification of the residents. That was never an issue because the TOH went above and beyond the requirements for notification. Chris, are you a lawyer? You use terms such a summary judgement, etc. Do you know what they mean? You are correct, the town did not screw up originally, therefore their reversal is where they failed miserably. I spoke to attorneys very familiar with this case at the hearing yesterday, and they concur, also indicating that the TOH is and will be potentially liable for significant monetary damages. Who have you spoken to that is familiar with the case, and on what do you base your statement?
K June 6, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Wow, after reading all your posts I must say I feel sorry for the 5 year old you mentioned earlier. Do you berate everyone whose opinion differs from yours?
Patrick June 7, 2012 at 12:47 am
Andrew, do not allow this comment to be deleted. I want all the people who read the Patch to understand what kind of derelicts comment on this story. This is perfect, shows the type of people who are involved in these discussions, top notch individuals. Now I am mad, not just intolerant.
Steve June 7, 2012 at 06:32 am
There have been a number of informational documents provided via links which have provided factual information via public information (FOIL) documents and court decisions. Certainly, I would be gracious for the information and not label them derelict. The issue will be decided by the BZA based on information, documents, testimony as well as research done. This is the reason a special exception "granting" has a time specific limit. So, it can allow for public input , participation and any/all information documents which pertain to the matter which may affect or change the issuance of a special exception. The matter will not be decided in the court of "public opinion". It will be decided by a Board who is appointed as citizens to protect the communities and the best interests of the communities.
Patrick June 7, 2012 at 11:54 am
Steve, it is the person who posted a commented about my daughter who is the derelic, and that is over the line. That is what I said, before the post was deleted. The only reason this issue is in question is because of the "court of public opinion" which provided not one material fact at the hearing about anything, just stories, supposition, and worst of all lies. Kevin Milano stated that his elementary school aged son was harrassed by the people from the club. The club does not open until 8pm, and from the research that I have done, the patrons really do not begin to arrive until much later than that. Testimony was given at the hearing from 2 other business owners in the mall that said it was neighborhood kids who harrass, not the patrons. So you tell me, who is more believable, a zealot or 2 legitimate business people who are there night after night. I do not need for anyone to give me information, as I have done my own research, and as I have stated many times, I am more informed than any opponent. It makes no difference if the opponents were told that the pope frequented Billy Deans, and he was ok with it, they don't care, they read and hear only what they want to, no matter the source. That is why I am so headstrong in my pursuit, because if left to their own devices, these rediculous people might actually succeed in their morality campaign. Five opponents at the hearing, none from NBell. What does that say to you?

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