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Nassau Notebook: Countdown to Arena Vote, Free Movie Nights

A weekly look-in at the news of Nassau County.

The following is a look back at some of the top stories in Nassau County over the past week:

Residents to Vote on New Hockey Arena, Ballfield

After spirited debates among supporters and opposers of Nassau County's referendum on borrowing $400 million for a new hockey arena and minor league ballpark, Nassau voters will head to the polls on Monday to determine the project's fate.

Be sure to check out Patch's "5 Things You Need to Know Today" on Monday morning for information on the referendum.

Thursday Night Movies at Eisenhower Park

Spend a night outdoors or go see a movie?

On Thursdays at Eisenhower Park, you can do both.

Residents of Nassau County are invited to attend the free movie nights, held every Thursday beginning at dusk. The movies are shown at Harry Chapin Lakeside Theatre (near parking fields 6 and 6A). The sloped fields make it easy to see the screen over people in front of you, but there are no seats, so bring your own or a blanket.

The schedule is as follows:

  • Aug. 4 — "Justin Bieber Never Say Never"
  • Aug. 11 — "The Wizard of Oz"
  • Aug. 18 — "Green Hornet"
  • Aug. 25 — Iron Man 2
  • Sept. 1 — Twilight
Manny July 31, 2011 at 11:14 PM
This is not about you. This is about your community. But i'm not going to bother arguing with you. You won't get it.
Manny July 31, 2011 at 11:15 PM
SHOW US A STUDY OR A REPORT THAT SAYS SO!
Manny July 31, 2011 at 11:16 PM
Ok, another baseless argument.
Manny July 31, 2011 at 11:18 PM
dab, their have already been independant reports that stated a) the project will benefit the TOH, and b) if the team moves, and the coliseum closes, the town will lose somewhere between 150 mil-250 mil every year. Hence i don't get the No side.
Manny July 31, 2011 at 11:20 PM
Wow, alot of assumptions just to make sure you don't pay a few bucks so kids can go watch their fav. sports team, or the circus, or the ice capades...how small are you?
Thomas T July 31, 2011 at 11:33 PM
What does Nassau County have? A beautiful public park system with every amenity. Great golfing. More open space than America's oldest suburb can expect. Historic mansions and gardens, open to all. Wonderful museums. Programs for kids and the elderly. Art. History. The ocean. The woods. Horseback riding. World class restaurants and shopping. Excellent schools with dedicated teachers. Medical care beyond compare, and police and firemen and nurses who live here and love what they do to keep us safe and healthy. Clean, tree-lined streets. Access to America's First City is usually about an hour or so for most of us. Farmer's markets. Art schools. Historical societies. And - for every obnoxious "princess" who tosses garbage out of her Lexus on the Northern State and shoves in front of you on line at Whole Foods or Blooomingdales, there are three decent folks who are all "please" and "thank you" and "what a cute kid" when they look in your stroller. Is it expensive? Yes. Overpriced? Hell, yeah - there is fraud and waste from top to bottom. THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. (And the "princess" needs her ass handed to her as well.) But mostly, we need to consider what a world-class stadium will bring here. Jobs. Fans. Cash. And... prestige. I'm voting Yes.
Brian Rosen DDS August 01, 2011 at 12:58 AM
Let's look at some facts, based on tax dollars lost if this fails it will cost Nassau somewhere in the range of $ 150,000,000.00 who can afford that? People here don't know the hard facts!
Marcus August 01, 2011 at 02:45 AM
The Arena is clearly an unsound financial deal, Nassau County is the loser here. The county is already among the most taxed in the Nation. People are moving in droves off the Island because they can no longer afford to live here. If we have to raise taxes, the money can be spent better than basically funding a Private Development Project.
Marcus August 01, 2011 at 02:49 AM
One thing is for sure, if the deal goes through Mr Wang and his gang will be laughing all the way to the bank! If he cared as much as some of you, he would give Nassau County a great deal. But this is not about Nassau County, it is about Wang and company.
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Manny August 01, 2011 at 03:07 AM
The taxes are high because you have no economic growth. What do you think your taxes are going to be when the team leaves and the coliseum closes?
Manny August 01, 2011 at 03:14 AM
That's ignorant. If he didn't care, he would't have tried to invest billions in the TOH. If he didn't care, he wouldn't have bought the team, while losing millions for over a decade. And what do you think he's getting here??? It's your arena. Because you know, after making billions with CA, he thought, "You know what's a good idea, play dumb for a decade and then rape the TOH for everything it's got!!!" All Wang gets is a fair deal, like all the other sports franchises. I wish most of you would just say i don't want to spend 14$. I could live with that. But don't make absurd comments, like he's going to be "laughing all the way to the bank". You might influence someone to make a bad decision for themselves and their families.
DanTe August 01, 2011 at 03:16 AM
Every dirty pol here is talking up a storm on the "economic benefits" and how it's "only $58" per year. Dirty pols hates to come clean with the truths. Truth: all economic studies done for the past 3 decades have shown no economic benefits resulting from any taxpayer funded sport stadiums. Truth: the bond is going to cost Nassau businesses thousands of dollars each per year. Yes, it's somehow good economics to saddle businesses with even more taxes. And all this because some pols in Garden City didn't like the fact that Wang wasn't going to give them kickbacks when Wang originally proposed that he pay for it all out of his own pockets plus additional developments totaling $1 billion.
An tUasal Airgead August 01, 2011 at 03:22 AM
Manny?? ... that must be short for Mangano. Trying to "scare" up a few more votes Ed? LOL
Manny August 01, 2011 at 04:05 AM
Not trying to scare anyone, just sharing my opinion, based on what i've read, not the 14 dollars in my pocket.
Brian Rosen DDS August 01, 2011 at 09:50 AM
Who wouldn't spend 58 a year to give hundreds of people jobs ? And that $58 would be tax deductible ! How much more would it cost if we lost between 150 and 250 million in tax dollars? Let us not forget that those employed would be spending money here too!
Brian Rosen DDS August 01, 2011 at 11:14 AM
Please vote yes today we need the jobs! Please vote yes we need the sales tax revenue! Please vote yes we need the income tax from all those employed and that includes the hockey players salaries!
Tanii C. August 01, 2011 at 11:26 AM
I thought that is what I heard early about this project - that Wang wanted to originally pay for it all but the County didn't want to relinquish power to an outsider. Is there anymore information on that angle of this debate?
paul.d.spellman August 01, 2011 at 11:47 AM
Tax Deductible?
paul.d.spellman August 01, 2011 at 11:49 AM
Please vote yes today my only sense of self worth comes from rooting for a bunch of men playing a game! Please vote yes somehow my life will be more complete if an overpaid bunch of people win the championship.
An tUasal Airgead August 01, 2011 at 11:52 AM
Whatever your position, GET UP AND GO VOTE!! DO NOT RELY ON OTHER PEOPLE TO VOTE YOUR WAY because you are too lazy to do it yourself! If you hate this deal (as I personally do) then GET UP AGAIN, in NOVEMBER and vote out anyone that had a part in it! Vote again in the following elections to do the same! Wang is a businessman. If someone offered you a good deal, you would take it too. Don't blame Wang, blame the game .... the game being played by the current administration in Mineola! These people are in office because we put them there. You can type all the comments you want to, but if you don't exercise you right to vote, because it may be inconvenient, then you are part of the problem too.
Robert Demarco August 01, 2011 at 12:29 PM
I went to vote in Levittown at 6AM, and there was much confusion among the poll workers. They could not start the computer that serves as the new voting machine. They said that I had to fill out an affadavit and my ballot would be counted manually. There was a question on the affadavit that I was not sure how to answer, and neither were the workers. Eventually, they got the computer working and my ballot was scanned. All of this took 15 minutes. Th point is that by rushing this referendum, there are untrained personnel using a new voting system. This should have been on the ballot in November, when there would be ample time to train the staff. One potential voter walked out in a huff, and who could blame him? The workers were looking in procedure manuals to find answers. They did not know what to do. So typical of Nassau County and its lack of vision politicians.
Jay August 01, 2011 at 01:40 PM
This vote needed to be held ASAP. If it's voted down, Wang needs the time to work out a deal somewhere else, because I'm sure it won't be in Nassau County. Everyone has the opportunity to vote through absentee ballots, so if you were going to be away, you still had the opportunity to vote if you cared enough.
Brian Rosen DDS August 01, 2011 at 07:58 PM
Howard, how would you make up for the lost sale tax? In previuos years the amount has been over 100 million dollars? What would you say to all those construction workers who cant find work? What would you say to all those employed who will loose jobs?
Howard Kudler August 01, 2011 at 08:28 PM
Look, I like the Islanders, I like the events @ the Coliseum. I like Unions new sources of revenue and LI's employment. I was a BIG Support of Light House. THIS is NOT a good deal. Taxpayers do NOT have to finance this. Saturday's Newsday reported that Mangano DOES have a Plan B (Actually a Plan C). A NO vote does not drive the Islander's out! PS - did you know that under this plan, Nassau's residential and commercial property taxes rise, but the Wang & Company become exempt. Ironic, huh?
Ryan Cappiello August 01, 2011 at 09:00 PM
Howard, I've seen you posting this (inaine, stupid) song all over patch, and I have one question for you. DO you realize that that your taxes are going up either way. If people vote no, the Islanders leave, the Coliseaum closes down (without an anchor tenant, it cant stay open), and taxes go up to relace the budget shortfalls. OR we can stop being shortsited, vote YES, and get a new coliseaum and, while taxes will go up, they will go up LESS then if we dont vote yes. PS- I launched this campaign on my own! No Party, Union or Corporation put me up to this! The PEOPLE want the Sports Arena to JUMP-START the COUNTY, while short-sited people dont want it! Or they just want to see Mangano fail for 100% political reasons! Any Questions?
Howard Kudler August 01, 2011 at 09:18 PM
Ryan Yes, I may have too much time on my hands, but I am very concerned about the issues of today's special election. In my opinion, voting NO will not raise our taxes, drive the Islanders out, cause unemployment. This is already Plan B, after the Light House and Plan C is in the wings if today's outcome fails. I don't think tapayers should pay for what could (or should be) built with private $$. The most important thing that either you or I can do is raise awarness so that people will go out and express their opinion and Vote today. Please vote YES or NO! Voting will be light so each ballot counts more. Take a stand! Don't let the Pols or the Businesmen run your government or your tax bill. PLEASE VOTE TODAY! Thanks-This keeps America strong
Ryan Cappiello August 01, 2011 at 09:41 PM
Howard, I understand, but I feel like about 95% of the NO votes arent voting on the merits of this plan at all. They are just voting AGAINST Mangano. Maybe you're in the 5%, I don't know, I'm not in your head. But if you dont think that the Islanders will leave, or the Coliseam wont close, or taxes wont go up, I think you're just fooling yourself. Mangano has both hinted and and, more reciently, outwardly said, on many occasions that if the Islanders leave, there will be no Coliseam. The one we have now will close. And Wang has already lost 250 million dollars on trying to keep the Islanders here. If this doesnt pass, he's gone. He cant afford it. There is no real "last min Hail Mary" to throw in that case. The Plan C is going to end up being "sell the land for whatever we can get for it." Nassau County will then lose HUGE money in revenue and other oppertunities, and Residents lose jobs, because the 2000 jobs currently there will all go away. The no voters are (in my opinion) VERY short-sited in that they can't see that a 13.80 per year investment will SAVE this flondering county and put us back on top.
ed goldstein August 02, 2011 at 01:26 PM
that works too. all these politicians (mangano, murray) have their own agendas and we're not on them.
Drew Art Guy @ Sunflower Fine Art Galleries August 02, 2011 at 03:10 PM
The public gets what the public wants

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