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Nassau Notebook: New Isles Arena, Redistricting Ceased

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Legislative Redistricting Ceased

Hundreds of Nassau residents protested against a Republican-led plan to change legislative lines at the Nassau County Legislature Monday.

Several residents voiced a variation of the same objection, accusing the representatives of political gerrymandering and expediting a process which Democrats say previously took place over a two-year period.

A few days later, a Nassau judge ruled that the legislature cannot vote the plan into law for this year’s election.

Nassau Legislative Majority Leader Peter Schmitt, R-Massapequa, added, "we’re reviewing the judge’s decision."

A Potential New Home for the Islanders

County Executive Ed Mangano and Islanders owner Charles Wang, together with Hempstead Town Supervisor Kate Murray unveiled a plan that would keep the New York Islanders pro hockey team in Nassau after their lease expires in 2015.

The proposal, which includes a sports entertainment complex adjacent to the existing Coliseum, would only move forward if county residents approve $400 million in bonds. That vote takes place on Aug. 1.

Though Mangano said the Islanders would pay the county back through revenue earned at the new coliseum, NIFA, the state oversight board charged with reviewing the county's finances, is currently evaluating the deal.

Parking Tickets Eligible for Amnesty Program

County Executive Ed Mangano announced that the Nassau County Traffic and Parking Violations Agency (TPVA) will be holding an amnesty program for all parking tickets issued prior to Jan. 1, 2010. The amnesty program will begin on May 16, 2011 and continue through June 30, 2011.

During the amnesty period fees and late charges will be waived.  Full value will be restored once amnesty program has concluded.  All payments must be received by July 1, 2011 in order to be considered part of the amnesty settlement. Any payment received after July 1, 2011, will be credited towards the full remaining balance. Full remaining balance means that penalties and other fees will be restored to its full original balance prior to the amnesty program.

All vehicles that have three or more unresolved parking violations or unresolved Red Light Camera Notices of Liability, also known as scofflaws, will be subject to Nassau County’s Boot and Tow Program.  As part of the County’s Boot and Tow Program, violating vehicles will be immobilized, removed from the scene and stored.  The recovering party will be liable for these expenses.   The vehicle will not be released until all fines, surcharges and additional fees are paid in full.

Residents can search for and pay unpaid parking tickets that qualify for the County’s Amnesty Program by visiting the following website: http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/amnesty.  For additional information, residents can contact our Nassau County Traffic and Parking Violations Agency via email at TPVA.Amnesty@nassaucountyny.gov or by phone at 516-572-0954.

The Jets should play on Long Island. Its a visual testament to how utterly screwed up the system is that they don't.
Proper, entertainment oriented development of the site is pivotal the future of Long Island. That development includes the Islanders. Minor league sports can supplement the "major" draw, but a resident pro teams has to exist here. How come no one is talking about basketball? Perhaps not a pro team- Final Fours, College hoops...make it pretty and easy to get to (tram from LIRR) and they will come....
An tUasal Airgead May 24, 2011 at 09:25 pm
5 million people because there is an International Airport at one end and public transportation to NYC at the other end.
There are three LIRR stations (Hempstead, Carle Place & Westbury) within 3 miles or less from the Coliseum. They need a shuttle bus, not a tram.
An tUasal Airgead May 24, 2011 at 09:39 pm
As far as a field for Soccer, LAX, etc.
There is an existing field/small stadium in the Mitchell Athletic Complex. It was used for soccer (Rough Riders) but they now play in South Huntington. The Lizards LAX used to play there, but now play at Hofstra stadium. Hofstra stadium which doesn’t have a Hofstra football team, could also be a venue for any soccer tem, or other sports in the area. http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/Parks/Images/BUSH0004_000.JPG http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Mitchel+Athletic+Complex&sll=40.777774,-73.873189&sspn=0.029248,0.052614&ie=UTF8&ll=40.722814,-73.595466&spn=0.014636,0.026307&z=15&iwloc=A#http%3A//maps.go
Very true. There are multiple facilities that host all of the above. Its my hope that many would love to play at the latest, state-of-the art facilities and would move. If transportation could be fast, affordable and easy, cant see why they wouldn't. Attendance would automatically increase if fans could just take the train right to the door.
Nassau should build a tram from Westbury or Hempstead. Going to the facility should be simple, environmentally friendly, fun. No bus, no cab- just a transfer (and $7 fee) from the LIRR. You never have to sit,walk or wait in the cold. Heck, today you can get to MSG or even Newark's "the Rock" easier from Nassau!. Along with a decent convention center (workers can train it to work) you've got straight-forward return on the investment. Nassau owns and profits from the tram and Convention Center. Mr. Wang builds the Arena and ballpark.
@ An tUasal Airgead
You stated very correctly: "5 million people because there is an International Airport at one end and public transportation to NYC at the other end" Precisely why its needed. A tram connects LI Entertainment Complex to both! Point #2 Now you have access to supplanted L I ers now living in NYC. Workers on way home from NYC, college kids, HS students...currently, driving to the coliseum is perceived as far vs. just hoping a train. Point #3 Pack more folks in without pesky traffic. Get them out without. DWI laws being what they are, know plenty of folks who would opt to train it. Make a day of it. .
An tUasal Airgead May 26, 2011 at 07:44 pm
Nassau Coliseum is not and never will be MSG. Nassau County is not and never will be NYC.
Futuristic Jetson flying cars will not generate enough interest for people to leave NYC, to come to the Nassau Coliseum.
That's why we're replacing it. Building a entertainment complex that suits tomorrow's Nassau/Suffolk needs. Yet why not attempt to draw visitors (and their $s) in for events. That is good business. Agree, Nassau should not even think about becoming NYC. We can certainly compete on some levels for the good of all. Except MSG perhaps.
When you think big- big things happen. 1.3 million people live in Nassau. 2.2 in Queens. Nassau is closer for most if the means are available. The antiquated automotive driven suburban layout is what's destroying the same suburbia it sought to create.
An tUasal Airgead May 26, 2011 at 09:17 pm
Wishful thinking!
Frank May 26, 2011 at 09:23 pm
Last I checked LIRR runs through Queens, Brooklyn, and Manhattan. Even NJers can take the Path to Penn and take LIRR. The airtrain runs to Jamaica Avenue Station. Technically, you have access to over 8 million potential customers. An tUasal Airgead is right, shuttles make more sense.
The only problem I see is that out of the 8 million potential customers, only 20,000 maybe Islander fans, and those are the only ones that would bother to make a trip to the new Coliseum or buy tickets for that matter. the only draws that would reach over 50,000 would be concerts, again, note the disparity between potential market and actual customers.
Rob May 27, 2011 at 01:24 pm
The Coliseum is needed and not just for the Islanders. They play 42 home games plus playoffs (laughing). However there are so many more events that happen their which can bring in money. Put a Good convention area and bring more money in. There is so much that can be done with this area.
Frank May 27, 2011 at 02:21 pm
NHL teams play 82 since the 95-96 season. 41 at home, 41 away. as for the Islanders, not that many playoff performances since 1993.
Yes, there is alot that can be done, but you can do it without the Islanders. Islander playoff history: 2007 -- lost to Buffalo, 4-1, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals 2004 -- lost to Tampa Bay, 4-1, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals 2003 -- lost to Ottawa, 4-1, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals 2002 -- lost to Toronto, 4-3, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals 1994 -- lost to NY Rangers, 4-0, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals 1993 -- defeated Washington, 4-2, Patrick Division semifinals defeated Pittsburgh, 4-3, Patrick Division finals lost to Montreal, 4-1, Wales Conference finals 1990 -- lost to NY Rangers, 4-1, Patrick Division semifinals 1988 -- lost to New Jersey, 4-2, Patrick Division semifinals 1987 -- defeated Washington, 4-3, Patrick Division semifinals lost to Philadelphia, 4-3, Patrick Division finals 1986 -- lost to Washington, 3-0, Patrick Division semifinals 1985 -- defeated Washington, 3-2, Patrick Division semifinals lost to Philadelphia, 4-1, Patrick Division finals
Rob May 27, 2011 at 04:55 pm
Sorry Frank, unlike you I am not perfect and make mistakes, 41 home games. I most likely made a few typos in my post too, do you want to point those out as well.
My point is Hockey is not the only thing that happens at there and yes Nassua needs a place for other events to happen.
Frank May 27, 2011 at 06:31 pm
Events are happening at the current Arena. Don't see why Nassau has to front $400 million for an ice rink. Makes no sense to me.
More disturbing than that, we're turning a blind eye on the discharge of raw sewage into East Rockaway Inlet and Reynolds Channel. Nassau won't ask for a $20 M bond to repair the plant, but Nassau finds it necessary to spend $2 million to vote on an ice rink in August? Words cannot describe the disparity of priority the representatives have to its constituency
Frank May 27, 2011 at 07:10 pm
Good for you! I guess you can front the $400 million yourself.
Rob sounds like a wise man.
The Coliseum is the oldest Stadium in the NHL.
Nassau is the 8th most affluent county in the USA. 1.3 million people live here. Build it and they will come. Understandably, many may will not be able to afford season tickets. Fine. Some couldn't care less about Hockey. Fine. Its about the Isles as a centerpiece to a larger program. Bringing prime to a rusty pump. Supply and demand, while harsh, ALWAYS works. Nassau should bond a convention center and tram from Hempstead. Then ask Mr. Wang politely to build the sports complex. The Jets play in a swamp in NJ.
Scott Clarke May 28, 2011 at 01:42 am
How funny was that deleted comment from a guy named rolex. Could he be any more full of himself? Guys like that always fall the hardest. Hope he posts after his fall...i'll look for his post under the name "timex."
Joe G. May 28, 2011 at 04:44 pm
Rob makes a good point.
Doug Tyburski May 30, 2011 at 05:48 am
Frank, you seemed to have left out 1980-1983. 1984 they were in the finals. If your going to go back that far in history, i find it amusing how you just happen to leave the Stanley Cup years off your list. Please! Once again, just like the other Coliseum thread here on Patch, Suozzi was a huge backer of the Lighthouse Project!
http://www.tomsuozzi.com/news/archives/suozzi-supports-lighthouse-project-at-public-meeting/ http://www.tomsuozzi.com/pages/lighthouse/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_lHa1afapA Not sure what else you need. Kate Murray and the Town of Hempstead monopoly is what stopped the Lighthouse Project from becoming reality.
Winnipeg Thrashers.
With 633 thousand people, half as many as Nassau, and an household income of less than half what we make here, and absolutely no access to people in surrounding Manitoba area- Winnipeg has an NHL team.
An tUasal Airgead May 31, 2011 at 09:11 pm
Winnipeg? You want to compare Winnipeg to Nassau?
First, they HAD a hockey team. The Jets left in '96 (TO ARIZONA of all places) due to financial difficulties in Winnipeg. Second, what else do they have to do in Winnipeg? Drinking and ice fishing? Chasing a moose after a few Molsons? If they can't support a hockey team in a place where it is close to being a religious experience, I don't think you should be making a point of it. They got the team, because Atlanta had no place else to go and Winnipeg is foolish enough to think they can support it this time. Second time a hockey team left Atlanta! Arizona (also hurting) didn't move back to Winnipeg because Glendale, Arizona agreed to cover the NHL's $25 million in costs to operate the team for the 2011-12 season. BTW, the stadium in Winnipeg - it seats 1,500 less than the Nassau Coliseum does today.
Doug Tyburski May 31, 2011 at 09:55 pm
The Nassau County Legislature passed the referendum vote today 11-7, That means the referendum will be on a special ballot August 1st. This is the first step towards a new arena.
Frank June 1, 2011 at 02:24 pm
$ 2 million down the drain. I'm voting no. to each their own
@ n tUasal Airgead, believe the comparison is pertinent to the topic; for all the reasons you mentioned.
Winnipeg couldn't support the old WHA Jets due to, as we see often, poor management. Teams have to win sometimes in order to draw fans. The old Jets never won, no one came to games, they left town. Which also happened with the Flames and now, the Thrashers (all-time record of 342-437-45-78). Location matters. Venue matters. So does decent ownership - unless your The Habs, Leafs, Rangers, Red Wings... they are always going to sell out due to the history and massive fan base... can bet the house the that this new NHL Winnipeg team (no nickname as of yet) will sell out. Also to my point: Glendale AZ, plunked down 25 million., with no "hard" returns, to keep team solvent. Why? Sure Winnipeg's arena seats 1500 less. Probably going to have fewer luxury boxes for the same reasons.
Oh, Geez, Forget to let AtUasal Airgead know the primary reason the Jets left Winnipeg in '95
The Jets left town when the Canadian dollar slid to 62 cents U.S.
An tUasal Airgead June 2, 2011 at 01:02 pm
You're an Islander fan and basing your decisions as a fan, not as a taxpayer. We all know fans are irrational :-)
The Coliseum is NOT the oldest stadium currently in use by the NHL - MSG is. The current Garden opened in 1968, 4 years before the Nassau Coliseum. Canada has a dollar???
MerrickGuy June 2, 2011 at 02:22 pm
Unless every homeowner gets equity in the deal pro rata to what we are financing with Wang, I'm not interested. Great deal, if it bombs we get all the risk. If it does well, Wang gets all the gains... Oh that's right we get 4.25% incremental sales tax revenue to Nassau County!!! That will be huge, off course offset that with the cost of police and repaving on Hempstead Turnpike and the surrounding area.... But I'm sure this is a great deal. After all, the politicians told us so.
Frank June 2, 2011 at 02:37 pm
yes Merrickguy. Nassa County equity in the team will keep the islanders here... forever. Just like Green Bay, WI has equity in the Green Bay Packers. that team will never leave.
Sure I'm an irrational Islander fan! With whats transpiring on and off the ice , you gotta be irrational to be!
MSG, in my option, is a far better arena. Has been/is being updated all the time. Sure Canada has a dollar, believe Wayne Gretzky is on the face.
fedders June 2, 2011 at 05:27 pm
Doug: "I have faith it will work itself out. With projects like this, you have to vote on instinct. Nobody can ever know what's 100% certain for anything. How many times do you hear a politician say "no new taxes", and you vote for that candidate. What ends up happening??? New taxes! If Mangano made a firm guarantee, he may or may not be called a liar in the long run. "
Yikes. I hope residents use better judgment than this before agreeing to subsidize a local billionaire with $400 million out of their own pockets. The example you give re politicians and taxes confirms that politicians are inaccurate at best, and liars at worst. So you want me and my fellow residents to pay $400 million more on some politician's say so? This is a fleecing of the highest order just waiting to happen. Why don't you just admit the truth - you are a hockey fanboy and you think a new arena would be so much fun - you just need every Nassau resident to pony up $400 million.

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