Patrol Units to Operate Out of Policing Centers

Negotiations between police union officials and the county have been successful throughout the last month.

Less than one month after Nassau County announced its decision to merge eight police precincts into four, police union officials claimed that public safety was being put at risk. They are singing a different tune, however, after recent negotiations with the county.

Jim Carver, president of the Nassau County Police Benevolent Association (PBA), told Patch that the union and county came to a deal that will keep patrol units where they currently serve. Patrol units will now be assigned to one of the four corresponding community policing centers or one of the four precincts.

The original plan called for all patrols to be stationed out of the four precincts.

"Eighth Precinct cops, even though they're going to merging with the Second Precinct, they're going to be assigned to the policing center, which basically keeps everything intact," Carver said. "In other words, no patrols will be changed, which is what our concern was."

Carver said the realignment, which was approved by the Nassau Legislature in March, will save the county money as far as administrative functions go, but will not jeopardize public safety as he has mentioned in the past.

The deal, according to Carver, came the same day that 98 members of the Nassau County Police Department (NCPD) accepted a voluntary incentive to retire before the March 22 deadline, saving the county more than $23 million in annual labor costs.

"For the most part, the savings come from administrative downsizing, but it doesn't effect the way that we've patrolled in the past," he said. "… Your neighborhood cop will still be your neighborhood cop."

The county confirmed that the changes to patrols will not affect the total savings from the realignment. According to county officials, the plan still provides for savings of approximately $20 million annually.

“Nassau's precinct realignment plan is progressing on schedule and residents will be happy to know that public safety remains intact as all patrol cars will remain in their current neighborhoods and 48 additional police officers will be assigned to patrol to protect our neighborhoods," Nassau County Executive Ed Mangano said.

The change in patrol, or lack thereof, might not be the last modification to the policing plan. Both Carver and the county said that negotiations are still ongoing.

The NCPD is scheduled to complete the first realignment on May 1 when the Eighth Precinct will then be transformed into a community policing center.

This is the fourth part of our series on the plan to merge the precincts in Nassau County. Check back with Patch for more on this special report.

Nassau Taxpayer April 18, 2012 at 05:34 PM
Yet another walk-back by Mangano. 100% governance (sic) by Whack-A-Mole(R).
DiverDown April 19, 2012 at 12:36 AM
I might be wrong, but hasn't it always been stated that patrol zones wouldn't be changing as the four precincts were turned into "Policing Centers"? This quote from Mangano appeared in a Patch article from February 24... "When you dial 911, the call goes to a 911 call center in New Cassel, then to the police car in your neighborhood — that will not change under this plan as all 177 patrol cars remain in their current neighborhoods." Read that again... "all 177 patrol cars remain in their current neighborhoods". That was the statement from February, not a "walk-back" concession to the NCPBA. If anything, Jim Carver is looking to save face by making this sound like a new development... either that or he never understood the plan from the beginning.
Helen Smith April 19, 2012 at 03:08 AM
The same number of patrol cars will be patrolling their same areas. No cars are being taken out of service.
Moe April 19, 2012 at 02:14 PM
As I stated when all of this was coming to pass. There was no plan to begin with and whatever ideas they had about saving money were going to be non-existent after all was said and done. The savings come from administrative downsizing? There are only 2 administrative cops that work in each precinct, a commanding officer, a deputy commanding officer and an administrative supervisor. Those 5 people in each of those 4 precincts do not add up to 20 million dollars a year (regardless of what Newsday would like to have the masses believe). I wish my bank used the same calculator that Mangano's team uses!
Ed Shendell April 19, 2012 at 05:41 PM
If you actually talk to a Nassau officer, most patrol units operate out of the booths. Most rarely go to a precinct during a tour. Since that was never being changed, this seemed to be much ado about nothing and many afraid of any change.
Jaime Sumersille April 19, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Originally patrol cars were being assigned to one of the four remaining precincts (ie. First Precinct officers would have reported to/out of the Seventh Precinct.) Jaime Sumersille Regional Editor, Nassau County
DiverDown April 20, 2012 at 12:09 AM
Unless their patrol zone was the precinct parking lot, it really doesn't matter where the cars report to or out of. The bottom line is that "public safety" was never going to be put at risk by this plan, no matter what the PBA mouthpieces would have had the public believe.
paul April 20, 2012 at 12:39 AM
To DiverDown: A precinct is responsible for more than you know when it comes to keeping a community safe. Wait and see what changes will be made next by the administration.
A April 20, 2012 at 02:50 AM
I'm pro cop and pro saving money, but I'd like to know how this "plan" is saving all this money. Unless the buildings were closed and sold, which I don't want to see, I don't understand where the money saving is. I'm believing that this is a sham to get around the minimum manning issue.
no regrets 2012 April 20, 2012 at 05:21 AM
Nassau county is one of safest Large counties in the country mostly due to the police. Does every police officer earn every dollar they earn no but the vast majority do a great job and are professionals. if you look at your overall tax bill Police expenses are reasonable and the crime rates help keep property values fairly high despite the global real estate meltdown. Check high crime areas and see what the real setae values are...you have to look at the big picture you get what you pay for
Nassau Taxpayer April 20, 2012 at 11:08 AM
With all due respect, you give policing way too much credit.
RoBuSt! April 20, 2012 at 02:54 PM
This sounds like nO changes, so how is there savings? It was a scare tactic to get people to retire that's all
ed April 23, 2012 at 02:01 AM
Mangano needs to go! The GOP corruption is out of control!!!!!
ed April 23, 2012 at 02:04 AM
Mangano has cut all special patrols to fill those 177 cars. He has cut POP, Heroin taskforce, Hwy units, Narcotics...etc Less cops on the street. Its all smoke and mirrors folks!
Joan C June 10, 2012 at 02:56 AM
WHERE are these 48 EXTRA cops they are telling us we will have going to be???? They said the number of cars on the street is remaining at 177 not increasing. How can this be if they are SUPPOSEDLY adding 48 more cops? Wouldn't that make it 225 cars? THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!!!! We deserve a right to know! If the 48 POP cops are all behind a desk they are NOT IN CARS helping us!!! THE 48 POP OFFICERS OR SPECIAL PATROLS should be ON THE STREET NOT INSIDE!!!
Joan C June 10, 2012 at 03:05 AM
Where will the 48 cops assigned to POP and special patrol going to be if the number of cars IS NOT changing?
Chris Wendt June 10, 2012 at 10:30 AM
@ Jamie Sumersille re "...(ie. First Precinct officers would have reported to/out of the Seventh Precinct)". I think there is a significant lack of understanding of the terminology being used in the stories about policing Nassau County, especially the word "report" and phrases like "reported to" and "reported out of". Presently, one of the "reporting" places, or mustering places for the 7th Precinct cars is a parking lot of the Wantagh Fire Department. At the beginning of their tour, the officers for the cars assigned there go there to start their shifts. I am sure there was never any intention to change that mustering place, other than at some point it would have been called First Precinct instead of Seventh Precinct. Much ado about nothing, there. However, "reporting to" also means administrative and organizational "reporting structure", i.e. to a Tour Commander and a Precinct Commander, for things like vacation scheduling, calling out sick, performance reviews, transfers, temporary assignments, etc. Organizationally and administratively speaking, there will be no officers "reporting to" policing centers, as the organizational hierarchy to whom they "report" will be situated at the remaining precinct houses. I may not have this completely correct, so perhaps Patch could sit with the Seventh Precinct Commander and get it straight for all of us.
John Timulty July 03, 2012 at 12:31 AM
CAPTJOHN: Figures don't lie but liars figure.


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