VIDEO: Unions Rally Against Mangano Legislation

Dozens of unions come together to rally against legislation that they have deemed "anti-American."

Dozens of unions from across New York State came together in front of the Nassau County Legislative Building on Monday to rally against what they called the “Anti-American and Anti-Union” agenda of County Executive Ed Mangano.

The impetus behind the rally is Mangano’s legislation known as the "Fiscal Crisis Reform Act," which, according to the union representatives, would allow the county executive to break contracts with unions whenever he sees fit.

However, Mangano said that he is simply asking for concessions in an effort to lower taxes.

“Rather than waste members’ dues on T-shirts and juvenile signs, union leaders would serve their members responsibly by getting their butts to the negotiation table," the county executive said. "The fact remains if union bosses fail to negotiate, more of their members will lose their jobs or will be furloughed."

Mangano added: "It is a sad day in America when union bosses are arrogant enough to claim that asking for concessions is 'Anti-American.' ... I continue to offer union bosses the opportunity to negotiate — however, I will not give in to threats. I stand with the residents of Nassau County who are struggling to make ends meet — nothing is more American than that."

Kevin O'Reilly October 21, 2011 at 09:50 PM
That whole sick pays "arrangement" needs to be eliminated. It's a scam that people accumulate so that they can cash in in their final year to boost their final year salary and game the pension payouts after retirement. Pension payments should be based upon Base Salary, not Salary plus overtime plus sick days plus accumulated vacation time. Stop ripping off the taxpayers!
Kevin O'Reilly October 21, 2011 at 09:52 PM
90 percent from the unions would be fine. The remaining 10 percent can be made up from "efficiencies" in employment.
Susan October 22, 2011 at 12:19 PM
Maria- Those who work hard for many years or own a small business do not pay 10-15% tax. By the time you add up soc. security tax, state taxes and federal income taxes they are close to paying 45%. Remember these are the job creators. Warren Buffet pays 17% taxes because it's based on capital gains not earned income. You should check your facts before you print false information.
Bill Sweeney October 24, 2011 at 02:34 PM
Holy crap. Do people really believe this nonsense b/c 1 billionaire liberal makes the claim? This guy is a loser and a cheat. His corp. OWES $1 BILLION in corp. taxes. So what if this guy makes all his money in stock, that's rare. Fact is, 47% of the country pays no Fed income tax. Top 1% pays close to 40% of all taxes...yes, that's fair. Top 10%, which is only about $115K per year, pays damn near all of it.
Tanii C. October 24, 2011 at 02:46 PM
@Bill just to clarify again its 47% of American households not 47% of the population. Big difference between approx 132m households and 309m people. http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html
GF October 24, 2011 at 07:54 PM
NY has huge debt problems and let's hope we don't end up like RI: People like Paul L. Valletta Jr., the head of Local 1363 of the firefighters union. “I want to get the biggest travesty out of the way here,” Mr. Valletta boomed from the back of the hall. “You’re going after the retirees! In this economic time, how could you possibly take a pension away?” Someone else in the audience said Rhode Island was reneging on a moral obligation. Ms. Raimondo, 40, stood her ground. Rhode Island, she said, had a choice: it could pay for schoolbooks, roadwork, care for the elderly and so on, or it could keep every promise to its retirees. http://www.cnbc.com/id/45006325 “I would ask you, is it morally right to do nothing, and not provide services to the state’s most vulnerable citizens?” she asked the crowd. “Yes, sir, I think this is moral.”
SemperFidelis October 24, 2011 at 11:52 PM
Merrick....I agree with you. First things first.......post the yearly activity brken down by month of all the Police Officers in the County who earned over $150,000.00 or more last year. Lets actually see what they do each day that they deserve to get paid such generous salaries. I'm not anti-police at all, but enough is enough. When does it end. In my general tax bill, taxes towards the Police Dept. and Headquarters amounted to over 33% of my tax bill. For that amount I should be getting private escorts home from my local patrol officer.
SemperFidelis October 25, 2011 at 12:03 AM
Unions will be the Death of this Country!!! A politician has nothing to offer his constituents with regards to union contract negotiations if he accepts a large portion of his campaign fund from unions. How can he not take care of them????? Unions blindly back Democrats and Democrats raise taxes.....just ask Tom Suozzi.
SemperFidelis October 25, 2011 at 12:03 AM
Unions will be the Death of this Country!!! A politician has nothing to offer his constituents with regards to union contract negotiations if he accepts a large portion of his campaign fund from unions. Unions blindly back Democrats and Democrats raise taxes.....just ask Tom Suozzi.
GF October 28, 2011 at 11:07 PM
We need to start protesting the unions!! http://gothamist.com/2011/10/28/feds_urge_those_involved_in_lirr_di.php
Tonto October 29, 2011 at 12:13 AM
Union members everywhere are about to learn they done screwed the pooch :)
mark November 07, 2011 at 01:05 AM
I don't think Mangano is cutting enough quite frankly. I am tired of paying 10K a year in taxes to support these waste of salary union bubbas. Now I hear they feel that the county should raise taxes another 39% so they can continue to keep generous compensation packages? Are you kidding me? There is no way a cop or correction officer should be making a 100K + benefits BASE pay every year. They are not worth it IMHO. I am struggling just to come up with a decent down payment to replace my 17 year old car. Why? All my money is going to county taxes. When I bought my house in the early 90's , I was paying close to 4K a year in taxes. I thought that was considerably high then.Now i pay 10K. In every county election, I always tried to look for or voted with the candidate I thought was going to lower my property taxes. Mangano was the first one I ever seen that even raised the issue during his campaign. Base pay should be no more than 70K. Mangano is too soft. It is time we get someone in there that can really crack some heads and be tough with these unions. I want to see my taxes cut 39%, not raised.
John Rennhack November 07, 2011 at 02:33 AM
How about the anti-union people give up weekends and holidays and comp days which were all because of unions.
Merrick7 November 07, 2011 at 07:42 AM
Belesi, a former member of the SOA (superior officers association) for Nassau County Police, is a legislator who just came out against the unions and said they need to give in. Clearl this tells us something because these concessions affect retired officers like Belesi. Unions the gig is up
Merrick7 November 07, 2011 at 07:45 AM
naw teachers unions are the problem. Not individual teachers. In the Merrick district, they protested not getting raises during negotiations a few years ago when the recession first hit. Because god knows elementary school teachers deserve 6 figure salaries plus benefits
Merrick7 November 07, 2011 at 07:48 AM
actually look at historical cycles throughout the 20th century Cathy. Government worker layoffs always occur as the recession improves due to deregulation, like the 1950's when taxes dropped and government workers were laid off the economy soared and unemployment declined. However union membership was high but that was when being union actually meant middle class
Merrick7 November 07, 2011 at 07:49 AM
SemperFidelis I agree, but let us do this for all county workers. They have to report their workdays bi-weekly or monthly to show what they accomplished. As a taxpayer I am like a shareholder in a corporation. I deserve to know what I am paying for with progress reports
Merrick7 November 07, 2011 at 07:51 AM
Cathy we agree with you about patronage waste, contracts, debt, assessment review issues, but this does not change the fact that unions needs to concede as well
John Rennhack November 07, 2011 at 01:12 PM
Merrick7, Belesi is completely unaffected by and changes. He is retired. His pension won't change and he certainly won't give back any of his payout. The Unions already made concessions 3 years ago. How much more should they give back?
Merrick7 November 07, 2011 at 01:20 PM
please define said concessions. Also deferred pay is not a giveback. You still get the pay just at a later date. You save the taxpayers nothing and it costs more for us later
Merrick7 November 07, 2011 at 01:25 PM
Heres the joke the concessions they talk of are deferred raises and longevity payments. LMAO. "the county's 10,000 CSEA employees won't get eight months of their scheduled raises and longevity payments until 2014. The same holds true for the Sheriff Officers Association." SO you get the money in 2014 all at once and it must come out of the taxpayers wallet, but instead of a gradual increase we must pay with a sharp increase all at once. That oughta chase the businesses out once and for all. Those senior citizens on fixed income are really thanking you now
Merrick7 November 07, 2011 at 01:28 PM
in 2012, more good news in addition to deferred payments to police and detective unions from 2009, that were received this year (awesome concessions btw really saving us mondo money. Come next year, things get even worse for the budget: The county will pay out deferred wage and longevity payments to police, detectives and, twice, to superior officers, to cover work those employees did in 2009.
Merrick7 November 07, 2011 at 01:32 PM
Its genius if you think about it, the unions claim they sacrificed but not receiving raises that year. The budget gets balanced and they get to claim they are the giving sort. Then in a few years after a couple of balanced budgets and unions claiming they have given too much. All of the sudden waves of increases and raises fill their salaries. Destroying the budget. Bankrupting Nassau's coffers forcing a huge double digit tax increase, hurting the seniors on fixed budgets, the young couples with kids, the aging couple with kids, the actual middle class workers that pay for all their benefits and 401ks on their own and have not received a raise in 10 years and its not deferred it just is not coming. Its like a freaking time bomb. THANK YOU UNIONS!! YOU DO TOO MUCH
Susan November 07, 2011 at 01:50 PM
Merrick7- I read in Newsday that the police union no longer supports Belesi.
Merrick7 November 07, 2011 at 01:55 PM
The county has saddled itself with costly labor deals -- especially with county police officers, who earn an average of $126,000 a year, plus lavish benefits. (Nearly 400 retired Nassau cops have pensions exceeding $100,000 a year.) Also like the state, it has built up a large "structural" gap between recurring expenditures and recurring revenues. Also in the 70 million dollar labor deal with the CSEA that Mangano and the union both bragged about: Unmentioned in the county executive's press release: the tentative contract would give CSEA members two more raises of 3.25 percent a year, pushing the expiration date to the end of 2017 from the original one signed with Suozzi for 2015
Merrick7 November 07, 2011 at 01:57 PM
Yes that is kinda my point. Despite being a member of the SOA, a former Nassau policeman even Belesi came out against his union brethren risking their support to make clear concessions need to be made.
Kevin O'Reilly November 07, 2011 at 03:46 PM
How does one get to be a "Superior Officer"? Is it based on meritorious performance?
Dan Michaels November 07, 2011 at 04:32 PM
This issue is clearly not a simple or clear problem with a simple solution. It has many different dimensions to it. Some legal, others labor/management negotiated. Legal issues involve pensions. Pensions are the Law. Not easily changed or fixed and in all cases not fixed but replaced with another pension Law called a new Tier. In addition, Labor disputes and the Law and for many civlil service unions and management is eventually resolved in a process called Binging Arbitration. Believe it or not, some Arbitrators believe that a County or Agencies "ability to pay" is NOT restricted to how much cash they have to pay for the contracts. Arbitrators in the past have ruled that since the County or Agency has the ability to RAISE TAXES it cannot claim "inability to pay". Sounds crazy right? That's how it is in labor law. Not in all instances but enough. Like I said, this issues stirs a lot of discussion, but it's important to know how the process works and understand the limitations and parameters of what can and cannot be done in the immediate here and now. WE ALL CANNOT AFFORD HIGHER TAXES FROM ANY VENUE HERE ON LONG ISLAND. NOT TOWN - NOT SCHOOL. People need to speak out and use their voices at School Board meetings and just say NO MORE. In the long run it's about quality of life here on Long Island. Fight or flight from here. Seems like a simple choice. Silence will not sway the politicians, or school boards. Speak out. Loud and clear. Civily and factually.
James M. November 07, 2011 at 04:33 PM
There really should be a cap on these raises since many of the the top tier salaries for the Union are double what the same position would make in private.
Lisa gomez November 09, 2011 at 02:00 PM
Do You put yourself in front of a bullet every day to save thd lives of people you dont know? If you have kids, just think, i, as an officer, would without a second thought put my life on the line to save your child from harm. What is that worth to you?? It seems nothing! We want to feel good about the job we do but the reality is that tthe nassau public despises us. They wish nothing but the worst for us and hate us until they need us. Being a cop is the most thankless and difficult job in the world and despite the criticisms, i wouldnt trade it for the world. The county preys on ignorance and wants the public to believe that taxes are high due to police and that is so untrue. Do the research, dont just listen to corrupt polititians. We earn EVERY DIME because my life is as priceless as i think yours is.


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