Patch Question: Will Harder Lynbrook HS Classes Help Students?

Tell us what you think in the comments.


Today's question goes out to current and former Lynbrook High School students as well as parents.

The Lynbrook School District’s "Strategic Planning Initiative" will concentrate on “increasing the rigor,” or difficulty, of instruction, as the district hopes to develop high school regents courses that go ‘”beyond the required New York State curriculum,” according to a presentation at last night's board meeting.

The initiative aims to push students to "strive for a degree of achievement that is slightly above their current threshold," according to Gerard Beleckas, Lynbrook Assistant Superintendent for Instruction and Assessment.

The board said that they do not aim to frustrate kids with harder work. The plan is still in the development stage and will be re-visited in more concrete terms during the August Board of Education meeting, according to the board.

Do you think the Lynbrook board's plan to "increase the rigor" of instruction will help improve regents scores if implemented? Or do you think it will just make work harder and create bigger headaches for students? Tell us in the comments.

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Jason February 20, 2012 at 02:48 PM
............ That's another discussion though,however, something to think about as to why this is also allowed? Payoff, corruption and patronage,unless we hold those accountable it'll be business as usual?
mike james February 20, 2012 at 02:58 PM
Jason, Noone disputes what your saying. Unfortunately this is the world we live in today. The public can no longer afford to support pension costs. I don't see where the economy will get any better.
Jason February 20, 2012 at 02:59 PM
Mike, If that is the case 'bout Waverly Park,then we must add this to our list of grievances. I will contact Curran as well as Skelos for an answer. As far as salaries and pensions.........Think of this, a pension for a teacher with 30 years is $4000- $5000 monthly on the low end. The asst principals, principals and superintendents pensions????? We all know whats going on there. Does our education system justify these numbers??? Same thing for a police officer who can make the same money on pension, as they make working.The well known buddy system which gives all the o/t to the future retiree, a kind of pyramid scheme, boosting their pensions to an average of 75k annually for life, some at age 40?? The only one that can afford to purchase a home or a new car are teachers and police????? Keep in mind here, these positions if they take advantage of their 401k options can get an additional matching contribution upwards of $16000 or so AND defer their tax liability 50% or more 'til their 70 1/2 ,crunch those numbers!!!!!! I dare anyone to dispute this! Gimme a break! Meanwhile the tax base is crushing us, disallowing your kids and mine the option of staying in LI, buying a home or finding a job for that matter. How many have lost their home because of these unconscionable taxes. Our entire infrastructure is falling apart,filth and grifitti is everywhere,danger lurks at every turn as our traffic light and safety system is so antiquated.
Jason February 20, 2012 at 03:06 PM
Absolutely not. I reject this analogy. It is on the cusp of solution. We have to continue the fight. The Wall Street protest will grow and grow........They must drastically change the system otherwise, we're the new Greece, probably after Obama gets elected, hopefully not, but if so? THERE IS NO MONEY NOW TO SUSTAIN US? THE BULK OF BABY BOOMERS WILL RETIRE IN THE NEX'T FEW YEARS,DRASTICALLY INCREASING PENSIONS AND SS PAYMENTS
Sherman St Unity February 20, 2012 at 03:59 PM
Jason You dont seem to understand the pension system and related costs. The number of people who are retiring in the next year will have zero cost effect to the schools and villages. In fact the more that do retire and replaced with the hopeful new pension plan #6 witll save us costs. The NYS pension system is in better shape tha most pension systems acrosss the counrtry. It is in fact just about 100% funded and has been run well. Howeve this gets away from the original topic of that youth on Sherman Street that nothing has been done about. Denise Nystrom and the rest of the administration continue to operate with their heads buried in the sand. They dont care about the residents of the school district but more worried about lining their pockets
Jason February 20, 2012 at 04:38 PM
Sherman, Are you saying they are ENTITLED to these lavish perks and pensions because there is money coming from somewhere while others cannot find shelter or feed their children? One way or the other our tax dollars are paying for it.
Tom Garrett February 20, 2012 at 07:21 PM
Sherman, Salient points regarding the pension system as for the original topic, folks have to show up in mass and present this issue in person at a Board meeting. I can think of no other way……….. Jason when you find the time the following link may be helpful as a starting point in understanding the pension system: http://www.nystrs.org/main/library/annual-report.htm
Jason February 20, 2012 at 07:26 PM
Tom, I'm afraid to look? lol Jason
Jason February 20, 2012 at 07:29 PM
Tom, My friends wife, a special ed teacher just retired from the Lawrence school district. She had 26 years and is 62. She is receiving $4000 monthly, and was hired back as a sub for $200 a day????
Tom Garrett February 20, 2012 at 10:47 PM
Jason, All I see is someone very special that for 26 years served the special needs segment of the student population. You have to be cut from a different cloth in order to do what your wife’s friend did for so many years. I commend her for her service, as for her pension those were the rules, right, wrong or indifferent when she entered her vocation. How can one find fault with that?
Jason February 20, 2012 at 11:26 PM
Tom, Yes I agree,however,during good times, however, these are not!~ We must run our municipalities the same as any private enterprise. To ingratiate certain unions conversely, creating so much public despair is in Mr Spocks language........ certainly illogical! As Ive said so many times... if our largest corporations was run as the muni unions particularly the school system, they would have gone under many moons ago. FYI, most fortune 500 companies have either frozen their pension plans or plan to do so in lieu of employee contributory retirement plans. Our subject discussion has both?? with no curtailment plans in sight? Once again people are losing their home or have lost them already, so many others never will be able to afford one. AND many boomers are on their way off the island to be replaced by multi famlies with kids further bloating our tax base!
Jason February 20, 2012 at 11:32 PM
Oh yes w/o disposable income retailers can't make ends meet, going bankrupt in record droves, look around, look at the infrastructure, quality of education crime stats of late????/ If we privatize our school system we can do all and more! OH YES, NOT TO MENTION MAYBE GIVE THE KIDS A BETTER EDUCATION???? INSTEAD OF PERFORMING FAR BELOW WORLD STANDARDS IN SUCH CRUCIAL AREAS AS MATH AND SCIENCES FORGIVE THE CAPS,,,,, :| I HIT THE CAPS BY MISTAKE?
Jason February 20, 2012 at 11:34 PM
Tom Garrett February 20, 2012 at 11:42 PM
Jason, I can’t refute a single point made! Well said, however, I am sorry to get you going…….. Enjoy the rest of your evening!!
Jason February 20, 2012 at 11:50 PM
Tom, Only kidding. I enjoyed or discussion, Good evening..
Donna Kraus February 20, 2012 at 11:51 PM
The belief that children in other countries attend school more than children in the U.S. is actually a misnomer. When the number of hours is added up over an entire year, we're at or near the top. Which successful methodologies do you think we should adopt?
Tom Garrett February 21, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Jason, I think you may find this editorial interesting, although the author in the latter part of the editorial merely touched upon what I consider the major problem with the education system as constructed today. http://liherald.com/stories/Public-schools-whos-in-charge,38753?page=1&content_source= He also brings up a time honored truth dripping with common sense and logic as it applies to Teacher Evaluations that would never ever be considered……. You’ll see it
Jason February 21, 2012 at 02:01 PM
Yes I am familiar w/ the subject matter. Unbelieveable!
Sherman St Unity 2 February 21, 2012 at 02:10 PM
Jason What I am saying is that they are entitled to these perks and benefits because they were promised them as part of the job and the money is there to pay them.
Sherman St Unity 2 February 21, 2012 at 02:15 PM
Jason Saying we should run our municipalities as we do private enterprise may not be such a good idea. Because Fortune 500 companies have frozen pension plans that is not the answer. They have taken the costs out against the employees while the top of the companies have received even bigger pay packages. We have seen plenty of these companies go bankrupt and destroy the fabric of people and towns they supported. The stell, automotice and airline industries are perfect examples of how not to run businesses. Sorry I dont think you take something away from an employee just because someone else did. You want to change benefits for incoming employees that is fine. But many people are too far in their career to adapt to the changes. We are looking at another fiscal disaster as all these employees retire without the safety net of a pension.
Sherman St Unity 2 February 21, 2012 at 02:34 PM
But the key point is this studat at Norht that Denise Nystrom and the administration have done nothing about. They sit there in there Ivory tower and collect the big salaries. But when a resident has done all the work for them on an issue they have done nothing. ITs time to find administrators that care about the taxpayers and the students, not just their own financial well-being.
Jason February 21, 2012 at 05:02 PM
Mike, That's just the apathy they rely on. Meanwhile, What was Nero doing while Rome burn't?
mike james February 21, 2012 at 05:04 PM
I moved here 20 years ago and had 2 kids that went through the school system here in Lynbrook. There were always ups and downs on different issues. However, having attended the last budget meeting,I realized that we are very fortunate to be in a district where we are getting rid of no teachers, cutting no programs and at the tax cap level in the budget. Every district has alot of administration and high teacher salaries. we are no different than anywhere else. Just remember next time your at your childs sporting events or music concerts, that without having the budget we have, none of that would be possible.
Jason February 21, 2012 at 05:35 PM
Mike, Let me guess???? You are, were or are close to an educator???
Sherman St Unity 2 February 21, 2012 at 06:10 PM
The true apathy we have here is that of Denise NYstrom and the rest of the administration and their do nothing attitiude regarding kids from other districts stealing our services..
mike james February 21, 2012 at 06:45 PM
Jason, Not at all. There are some of us who just have different opinions. i had 2 kids that went through the district and are now in college and there experiences were good ones. Honestly, when i see some of the other cuts and firings districts have made, I don't think its a bad thing that here in Lynbrook we're not firing anyone or cutting programs, that's all. No teachers in our family. always blue collar lol
Jason February 21, 2012 at 09:06 PM
LOL Yes I guess, although I wonder your thoughts of productivity and test scores?
mike james February 22, 2012 at 01:08 PM
Never a big believer in state tests.
Jason February 22, 2012 at 01:24 PM
How 'bout the education system as a whole............are we on a par with Asia,Europe?? Math, Science as well as bilingual education?? How 'bout writing skills? How 'bout that?
Jason February 22, 2012 at 01:30 PM
How 'bout Geography, history? Can you locate Texas, Europe, South America on a map on a map? Over 50% of our students cant :| Our foreign competition can??


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