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'Seasons at Seaford' Developer Stresses Age Restriction at Community Meeting

The Engel Burman Group representatives tell packed crowd Thursday night that condos proposed for former Seaford Avenue School property will not add any students into district.

The developer of a proposed new condominium development at the former Seaford Avenue School property assured residents during a public forum Thursday night that the planned 112 units would only be for people ages 55 and older and not add any additional new students into the schools. 

Steven Krieger, a representative for The Engel Burman Group, told a packed audience in the Seaford High School Auditorium that they will sign a covenant with the Town of Hempstead restricting all units in their "Seasons at Seaford" development have one or two people 55 and older living there. Krieger also said during his presentation at Thursday night's informational meeting on the proposed $5.1 million sale of the 5.66 acre property up for a referendum vote on Oct. 16 that another covenant with the town will also be signed that forbids any school-aged children from residing in the condos.

The "Seasons at Seaford" project is being developed by BK at Seaford, LLC, a subsidiary of The Engel Burman Group, which is in contact to purchase the 5.66 acre property on 2165 Seaford Ave. for $5.1 million. If voter approval is granted, the two-bedroom units will be sold in the 350,000-$400,000 range and first offered to Seaford School District residents and their parents. The facility would also include a central clubhouse with a fitness center and outdoor pool.

The 1939-built Seaford Avenue School closed in 1981 and was leased to Five Towns College from 1982-1992 and Nassau BOCES from 1992-2010. District officials said the sale of the property to BK at Seaford is approved, an estimated $100,000 in annual maintenance costs would be saved.

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Dozens spoke out during the public comments portion of Thursday night's informational meeting to address concerns about traffic and changing the character of the neighborhood around the Seaford Avenue School if condos are built.

"You have too much traffic too close together," said Elizabeth Volz, who resides on Oakland Avenue in Wantagh within the Seaford School District. 

Bob Eschbacher, a traffic expert with VHP Engineering in Hauppauge, said a recent traffic study he conducted determined that the "Seasons at Seaford" complex would only add one extra car every five minutes during morning hours on streets surrounding the property. Eschbacher said the low traffic estimates are based on how senior citizens who are retired typically do not drive during the morning during rush hour. He added that traffic resulting from the condo development may be less than when Nassau BOCES operated there. 

Some questions asked if single-family homes were considered for the site and Krieger said that kind of development was studied but it was determined that only 30 houses would be able to be built and the selling price for the district would be $1.5 million.

said the 112 condo units would generate $620,000 in school taxes to Seaford each year. 

In late 2010, the Seaford School District issued a community input survey that 643 district residents responded to on what to do with the former elementary school and no preference was emphasized in the results. Seaford Superintendent Brian Conboy said he met with Hempstead Town Supervisor Kate Murray in early 2011 to see if the town would have any interest in acquiring the property to build a community center or athletic fields, but she informed him that this plan could not be achieved during the current economic climate. 

"We can't wait any longer to make a decision on the property," Brian Fagan, president of the Seaford Board of Education during Thursday's meeting. 

The Oct. 16 referendum vote for the proposed Seaford Avenue School sale is scheduled from 6 a.m. to 9 p.m. at Seaford Manor School and Seaford Harbor School.

Judith Conlon October 11, 2012 at 10:06 PM
*Seamans Neck Road (darn spell check)..
Ozone Park Native October 11, 2012 at 10:14 PM
In my haste I left off a 0 in the above - it's 100K/year ---sorry folks..
Buster of Seaford October 11, 2012 at 11:19 PM
Adjusting my helmet..Again, to nutshell this..it's too big for the site. The impact studies, if any were really done, laughable. I mean they said the traffic will be less than when the BOCES had it? Really? The contract is fatally flawed. The tax remedy, minimal. Once it's gone, it's gone. 100K a year, the cost of less than a teacher (and where does that $ go? Who established that #- the same folks that paid for that "Traffic consultant"..?) Lets see, what else..one other thing...I'm not advocating keeping it as a field. That's why we all vote. But to the person that feels that our kids can cross Merrick or worse Sunrise to use a field..try that yourself. Bring your wings. Many years back there was a big to do at the school over buses.. they held a lot of people to the EXACT distance to the school..dealing with the transportation dept. is oh so special. They told the parents the kids could cross Sunrise themselves, without a crossing guard. About the same time that a pedestrian, a kid, was killed on Seamons Neck and Sunrise. And nothing was done. PD acknowledged the situation of cars speeding over 135 with no visibility until the last minute was a dangerous situation. Nothing was ever done. Maybe we needed a traffic study, you think?
Buster of Seaford October 11, 2012 at 11:22 PM
I wouldn't vote for this if EB promised us the moon. BOE..do what we want for a change, cancel the vote. Have another one next time we vote the budget. Include all the options that have been discussed. Be transparent. Notify EVERY taxpayer when the vote is scheduled. Stop trying to push your own agenda on the community. You have lost an awful lot of credibility from this mess. That's all I got. See you there.
Judith Conlon October 16, 2012 at 06:50 AM
FYI...by "gaping holes in the contract" I didn't mean ONLY those that Engel Berman has so "graciously" (and RECENTLY) decided to "fix." (How sweet of them!) That contract has so much wiggle room, EB won't even need zoning board connections! Can't wait to see the "new and improved" version! Remember that EB exercised IT'S right to delay the referendum, admitted the BOE on 10/11. "We" had no such contractual rights.. the BOE, so blinded by dollar signs, having happily signed their lives away already. This was no oversight: We're being "played," so blinded by greed are they that nobody even bothered to cover their tracks! Not the developer who wants "all" the wiggle room, nor the BOE who couldn't care less about that! Incompetence? Hardly! They all know exactly what they're doing. WE'RE the schnooks! At the BOE meeting on 10/11, a member sniffed, when asked what would happen in the event that EB manipulated that "wiggle room" should the referendum pass, "That's not OUR problem!" The room gave a collective gasp: The"mask" having slipped, did we actually glimpse the "wolf?" Tell us how you REALLY feel BOE! Once you get your money it's "not your problem" what EB is capable of doing to us anymore? Can this nightmare get any worse? Yes, I'm afraid it can! The contract doesn't protect us and I wouldn't bet the rent on any "new and improved" version engineered by EB while the BOE snoozes on.. There are so MANY reasons to vote "NO" on this, you can't pick just one!

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