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Town's Train Parking Pilot Program, Billy Dean's Update

A weekly look-in at news from around the Town of Hempstead.

While there has been chatter about a pilot parking program coming to the Bellmore and Merrick railroad stations, the Town of Hempstead said that nothing is set in stone yet.

Currently, the proposed program currently states that about 10 percent of the parking would be restricted to Town of Hempstead permit holders in order to free up spaces for commuters who frequently travel to the city. The permit would cost residents $3 annually.

The Bellmore and Merrick train stations were targeted for the program because there have been no regulations on parking and no Town of Hempstead passes necessary, so people from other communities head to these lots and hop on the train.

Whether it is because they can catch the express or because it is cheaper to come from the Bellmore-Merrick zone instead of further east, these parkers leave little spots available for residents.

Click here to read more on the potential parking program.

Billy Dean's in Bellmore Applies for New Cabaret License

Billy Dean, owner of Billy Dean's Showtime Cafe in Bellmore, went before the Hempstead Town Board of Appeals Wednesday in an attempt to renew his cabaret license and off-street parking variance, both of which expired March 28.

No decision was made by the board Wednesday, but several residents spoke out both for and against the establishment.

"If this license is not renewed, 17 people will lose their jobs," co-owner Rori Gordon said, said. "It was renewed with no problems before and we will not let you down."

Click here to read more on Wednesday's hearing.

Frank Groman June 1, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Nor will they. They have not the mental capacity to understand facts and truth, just contrived rhetoric in there own minds.
Re: the issue discussed "we can not read the small print in the legal section", my guess is this application was not advertised enough for them to find it anywhere to know enough to attend. A half page article in Bellmore Life, two stories in Newsday, 1500 letters sent to the residents, News 12, online @ The Town of Hempstead website, two, maybe three articles on the Patch. I am guessing the oppenents were expecting a car service to pick them up and drive them to the hearing via a personal phone call from Mr. Dean to invite them.
Mac June 1, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Trying to be objective it doesn't seem that this club would be any worse or more harmful than your local bar, pizza place or dunkin donuts. I still don't know what they did that was so bad or laws they broke even after asking. In fact the letter from TOH said it wasn't nudity. The hours are later then when most children should be out. But, if a white castle and sonic is determined to have a negative impact on a community what hope does adult entertainment have. Also Patrick maybe you want to tune down the zealot/liar name calling because it does take away from your message.
Patrick June 2, 2012 at 05:12 am
Mac, I appreciate the sentiment. There is a reason, a bit of an inside joke. You will never get an answer from anyone opposed to this situation because the opponents have refused to answer any questions that would require them to state any sort of facts regarding Billy Deans 2 location. You have been asking for a few weeks, I have been asking for 15 months. All they know is their own rhetoric, nothing more. You will probably never hear from anyone opposed to these bsuiness' again because of the article in the W/S Citizen that completely undermined everything that they claimed, as well as destroying the their leaders credibility, which was all but non-existent before the article anyway. I have been at odds with these people for over a year, and all I know is that when pressed for facts, they do one of a few things, eitther attack me, claim that I am somehow involved in the business, or just go away. While I certainly goad them and work them over with my rapier wit, I have done nothing but post facts and ask questions of them regarding the 2 business', all of which have gone unanswered for well over a year. I appreciate your desire to be objective, but you will get nothing from them, especially.now that they have nothing to hang their hats on due to the Citizen article.
Patrick June 2, 2012 at 01:37 pm
Comments deleted again, why I do not know. Andrew, please review and repost all deleted posts. There is no reason that anything from this string should have been deleted. If there is, please inform everyone as to why they were deleted. The oppositions case is completely destroyed, and it is high time that nothing said about Billy Deans 2 business' be deleted. An apology to Billy Dean and Rori Gordon is warranted, and I hope one is issued in order to attempt to right the absolute one sided reporting by the Patch. Also, I would ask the Patch to get in touch with Kevin Milano, who has been the most outspoken opponent and leader of this campaign, so that you can get a statement from him regarding the article in the Citizen. If he has no comment, I would not be surprised, but that needs to be printed as well, simce the Patch has for over a year allowed him to comment freely, and even sought out Kevin Milano for comment. Please let everyone know how that conversation goes. Thank you
Patrick June 5, 2012 at 01:12 am
It is now 48 hourssince my request for the Patch to attempt to get a comment from anyone in opposition to these business'. Not one person that has opposed either one of these business' has even peeped since the Citizen article. Every time an article was posted on this site that was so rediculously one sided, the opposers were the first to jump on the bandwagon, spewing their rhetoric and castigating anyone that had an opinion other than theirs. Now, the most factual article printed about the hearing, the business, and the main opposition leader and his tactics, and no one cares or feels the need to comment upon this information. Not even an attempt at a defense of their side. How sad that the fervant opposition to this business has waned in the face of the factual article. But once again, not surprising. People afraid to face the facts, are usually the first to disappear when said facts appear. I would be sure that most people have read the article, I would just like for someone opposed to give their take.
Hollingsworth June 5, 2012 at 11:18 am
Mac: You didn't read both letters. The second letter in that link clearly stated that an inspector found nudity at Billy Dean's. If it as as Patrick said, that it happened in 2003, that only proves that there has been nudity all along. If it is as Patrick said, that those violations were dismissed, that only means that Billy Dean is connected and knows people. We already know that Billy Dean and David Weiss (Chairman of the BZA) are both on the Bellmore Chamber of Commerce. We already know that Ella Stevens (the one who wrote the letter recommending Billy Dean to the BZA) is a puppet for the Republican party. If the BZA votes in favor of Billy Dean's license renewal, it will be with the approval of Kate Murray just as it was when it first approved Billy Dean's application for the strip club in Wantagh. And Mac, Billy Dean is NOT applying for an adult entertainment license. He is applying for a cabaret license, which does NOT allow erotic dancing, let alone nudity. And it's been operating without any license since March. Kate Murray should have closed it down on April 1 for operating without a license. Period.
Mac June 5, 2012 at 11:57 am
Hollingsworth perhaps you should read the letters. The second letter was from the civic center to the TOH making CLAIMS of nudity but there was no verification at all. When the TOH went for both an undercover and an announced visit there was no finding of nudity. Anyone can write a letter claiming nudity so NO it is NOT CLEAR to me there was nudity. The letter from the TOH carries more weight as an official letter of notice of actual infractions and nudity was not one of them.
An tUasal Airgead June 5, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Mac, I think he was referring to the 2nd page on this link.
http://issuu.com/publiclifejournal/docs/toh-bldg.-dept-ltrs-re-bellmore-strip-club
Mac June 5, 2012 at 12:10 pm
antuasal airgead that link is from the TOH and clearly states:11/13/11 "No nudity was observed:performers were covered in accordance with the Board of ...." This was after an undercover visit and a scheduled one. The letter is pretty clear from the TOH NO NUDITY observed. This seems to be a topic where people only read what they want to. Read the letter and tell me what it says. The republican connection is a different story if they are all republicans with ties to Murray regardless it will be passed. Let me guess the Democrats are against it.
An tUasal Airgead June 5, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Mac, one link, TWO pages. There is one from November 13, 2011 AND one from June 16, 2011.
Read the June document.
Mac June 5, 2012 at 12:37 pm
This is interesting because why wouldnt they be cited for it as listed in the initial listings. I would take that yes in the past they were cited but have no outstanding citations for nudity and nothing has been observed that is current. This is an issue where people dont want this "element" in town. These same people were against a White Castle and a Sonic. It is about time people of Nassau County stop complaining about everything. Taxes will go up so we complain and new business cant start up because we complain. Cant be both ways. I actually drove down Sunrise Hwy the other day and was in that area. I was surprised how desolate many of those store fronts are from the Meadowbrrok to the Seaford Oyster bay. Once again I say Nassau County the land of NO. Thank you for pointing out that link I obviously did not realize there was another page.
Patrick June 6, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Let's disect, and inject facts. "clearly stated an inspector found nudity" 1 summons in 2003, challenged, and dismissed as unfounded. "proves that there has been nudity all along", letter from KM office indicating there has been no violation of permit or TOH laws regarding nudity. "those violations were dismissed, that only means that Billy Dean is connected and knows people.", now you implicate the NC courts of being complicit in a cover up."Billy Dean and David Weiss (Chairman of the BZA) are both on the Bellmore Chamber of Commerce", all business that are members of BCOC have been helped by the BZA to skirt town codes. "Ella Stevens wrote a letter of recommendation", it was a letter of REFERENCE, not recommendation. "If the BZA votes in favor of Billy Dean's license renewal, it will be with the approval of Kate Murray", KM has been an outspoken voice in opposition to both business', now she will endorse? "application for the strip club in Wantagh", this business has not opened, how can it be anything? "He is applying for a cabaret license, which does NOT allow erotic dancing, let alone nudity" He is not applying for anything, this is a renewal of an existing permit that has been granted twice in the past 10 yrs, without objection, until now, and by people who know nothing. NO NUDITY HAS EVER BEEN FOUND,
Patrick June 6, 2012 at 12:21 pm
And the best of all, " And it's been operating without any license since March. Kate Murray should have closed it down on April 1 for operating without a license. Period." Kate Murray does not have the power to shut down any business, his license is still active until it is not renewed, which will not happen. I guess you are not aware as to how the business process works, or any other process for that matter. Hollingsworth, your convoluted ideas are comical. Everything is a conspiracy. People are not in favor, but in favor. Your comments are bereft of any factual information. You seem to not care about any of the factual information posed to all opponents in lieu of your own rediculous ideas of what is happening. Did you read the article in the CItizen? Or is that just another conspiracy generated by the independent media? This entire post has more holes than.....(please insert own joke here). Please stop the madness, and just realize that you are wrong and grasping at straws, invisible ones at that.
Patrick June 6, 2012 at 12:22 pm
I am posting twice for effect.
Let's disect, and inject facts. "clearly stated an inspector found nudity" 1 summons in 2003, challenged, and dismissed as unfounded. "proves that there has been nudity all along", letter from KM office indicating there has been no violation of permit or TOH laws regarding nudity. "those violations were dismissed, that only means that Billy Dean is connected and knows people.", now you implicate the NC courts of being complicit in a cover up."Billy Dean and David Weiss (Chairman of the BZA) are both on the Bellmore Chamber of Commerce", all business that are members of BCOC have been helped by the BZA to skirt town codes. "Ella Stevens wrote a letter of recommendation", it was a letter of REFERENCE, not recommendation. "If the BZA votes in favor of Billy Dean's license renewal, it will be with the approval of Kate Murray", KM has been an outspoken voice in opposition to both business', now she will endorse? "application for the strip club in Wantagh", this business has not opened, how can it be anything? "He is applying for a cabaret license, which does NOT allow erotic dancing, let alone nudity" He is not applying for anything, this is a renewal of an existing permit that has been granted twice in the past 10 yrs, without objection, until now, and by people who know nothing. NO NUDITY HAS EVER BEEN FOUND,
Patrick June 6, 2012 at 12:23 pm
And the best of all, " And it's been operating without any license since March. Kate Murray should have closed it down on April 1 for operating without a license. Period." Kate Murray does not have the power to shut down any business, his license is still active until it is not renewed, which will not happen. I guess you are not aware as to how the business process works, or any other process for that matter. Hollingsworth, your convoluted ideas are comical. Everything is a conspiracy. People are not in favor, but in favor. Your comments are bereft of any factual information. You seem to not care about any of the factual information posed to all opponents in lieu of your own rediculous ideas of what is happening. Did you read the article in the CItizen? Or is that just another conspiracy generated by the independent media? This entire post has more holes than.....(please insert own joke here). Please stop the madness, and just realize that you are wrong and grasping at straws, invisible ones at that
Chris Wendt June 6, 2012 at 03:35 pm
Scorecard by Topic:
Town's LIRR Parking: 10 posts by 7 contributors Billy Dean's Update: 90 posts by 11 contributors Billy Dean's Box Score: Individual Contributors supporting Billy Dean = 5 Individual Contributors not supporting Dean = 6 Comments Posted in Support = 63 Comments Posted NOT Supporting = 27 Most posts = Patrick @ 40 (supporting) 2nd Most = Mac @ 11 (supporting) 3rd Most = Paul @ 8 (supporting) (Tied) 3rd Most = Jamie @ 8 (not supporting) (Tied)
Patrick June 6, 2012 at 04:48 pm
Most irrelevant person on Patch, Chris Wendt (hands down). Only talks about what he wants, indicates he will not speak about topics, but takes every opportunity to take pot shots at new business at 3500 Sunrise (36 times in 7 different articles), and when confronted with factual information and asked for a response, says nothing. Writes an article on Patch to transparently try to defend Kevin Milano, "On Zeal" using our military personell as a facade, that was so misguided and ludicrous, it made me sick. But once again when questioned about his motives, disappears. Tells the Patch readership indirectly, but blatantly, that I am the reason the Patch is failing, then denies. Writes this stupid comment, but leaves himself off the list. The reason that I have the most posts is that, unlike anyone in opposition, you included, I respond to every post that is in opposition to this business, and post fact after fact to make sure that anyone posting anything knows the truth. All opponents, you included, when taken to task just run and hide (Jamie "I'm done with this guy, it's a waste of time). Standard fare for people who can not back up their comments. Your credibility, or lack of it, is certainly not in question. Maybe I will write an article this week called "On Credibility". You can rest assured it will not be a veiled attempt at anything. Chris Wendt, you are a pompous windbag, as everyone already knows, but I thought it was high time it was broadcast.
Frank June 6, 2012 at 05:37 pm
Chris Wendt has every right to comment when he sees fit, just like you. There's more than one viewpoint to every story.
this is a forum after all and the more dissenting opinions, the better.
Mac June 6, 2012 at 05:40 pm
Frank well said especially since I seemingly always seem to be the dissenting opinion :)
Frank June 6, 2012 at 05:43 pm
:-)
Chris Wendt June 6, 2012 at 07:41 pm
@ Mac...but in order to be a dissenter, there needs to be something written by someone ELSE from which and against whom you dissent. Otherwise, its just being disagreeable, rather that honest dissention. I consider you to be an honest dissenter.
But, If someone makes 40 posts in response to only 27 other posts with contrary viewpoints, then that is not, mathematically speaking, responding to every post. It is more like responding twice to every post, or, more accurately, responding three times to every two posts. The important statistic to be gleaned from the scorecard I posted is that, regardless of the volume of repetitive recitals of ersatz "facts", there are only five (count 'em...1, 2, 3, 4, 5) proponents of renewing the Showtime Cafe cabaret permit, versus six (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6) people posting other than favorable comments about the pending permit renewal application for the North Bellmore business which bills itself as the "...Number One Strip Club". Will the Board's ultimate decision follow suit with this statistic: game, set, and match?
Tommy Greene June 6, 2012 at 09:41 pm
Are you all so scared of a little nudity that you rant and rave on here all day long.
Patrick June 6, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Chris, many of my posts are continuations, not just one post, so you can subtract 6 at least. And to continue, Have you read the Citizen article? No? Any input? I am indifferent to what you say. Mac, your praise from Chris the Bolwhard is empty, he is as fake as they come. I have been going back and forth with him for 15 months, and he has nothing more to say than what he says, which is nothing. I have asked him many, many times to back up his crap with fact, and he deflects, I have not. It is my position, as it has from the beginning, to say that any opposition to either of these business' needs to be based upon fact, and Chris Wendt provides none, only supposition and conjecture, as do all the rest. People like Chris Wendt....oh never mind, it is a waste of time. All I have ever posted here, aside from the appropriate digs, has been fact, which has gone unopposed with anything other than standard rhetoric. Chris, your constant retorts of rediculous information, especially what you have just composed, can not, by any rational human being be believed, as your information is completely wrong. I have printed nothing but factual information in response to standard drivel spewed by people in the opposition, just like you. Math has nothing to do with this, you fool. Information has everything to do with this, and you have nothing to add, other than your crap. Once again, you have completely ignored what I have said, you dolt.
Patrick June 7, 2012 at 01:11 am
From "K" on another string, "Wow, after reading all your posts I must say I feel sorry for the 5 year old you mentioned earlier". Top notch, people, top notch. It has reached a new low. This will be addressed, bet your bottom dollar on that.. You people have no shame and know no bounds, this comment certainly proves that. Have a nice day, Now I am mad.
Patrick June 7, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Here is the definition of opinion;a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. Opposing opinions about this business are just that, opinions. But when factual information is presented that proves certainty, opinions generally change. But not with the opposition, they continue to spread only what they THINK and now what is known. Everyone opposed to this business has decided to ignore every bit of factual information presented to them instead of digesting this info and potentially altering their opinion. Why? Because none of them want to admit that maybe they are wrong, therefore they continue to rant based only on what they want to know or think, not what is factual or truthful.
Patrick June 8, 2012 at 02:59 am
I am in possession of a letter penned by Kevin Milano, your hero, that states the following, "I assume they are desperate, because at the end of the hearing it was "the bash Kevin Milano show". It continues to question your reps., the BZA, everyone who had a different opinion. Great character. This is a direct quote "I will be calling the BZA tomorrow to make a formal complaint about how they could allow RG to rant about me since number one it was lies but mainly because it had nothing to do with the renewal issue or hearing. 489-5000 feel free to call to support me if you wish." Good luck defending this one. By the way, one of many self serving comments from the letter. More to follow. Kevin, hows family life?? Just asking.
Patrick June 8, 2012 at 03:42 am
Now more, where should I start. Ahh the letter to the editor in the Citizen, this is great, "Our BZA let the strip club owners supporters make negative comments about our children." Did not happen. Another, "This, in my opinion,can only be to mask a renewal of the strip club owners license." Bashing the BZA again in print, Kevin? Another,"Not sure when the BZA will make their decision but from my eyes, and I am not a lawyer, but I have been well read on Zoning Law over the past year, this is a no brainer" I understand completely, Kevin, you make so much sense. Another "And they denied me a chance to defend all the lies she was throwing out. Big Bad Kevin Milano was attacking the two strip club owners and they are "afraid of Kevin Milano". Must be a party at your house, KM. Can anyone other than me see where this is going? More? OK. "I cannot tell you how offended I was that my BZA allowed a SCO to conduct a 10+ minute rant about me at the hearing." I have many more, Kevin, can't wait to reveal. Every one of these quotes are Kevin Milano's words. Kevin Milano will not respond, because he is afraid of the consequence that the truth forces. I have all the documentation, Kevin. Fab!!
Patrick June 8, 2012 at 03:59 am
But it is all about the kids, right Kevin Milano? Anyone want to contest this?
Patrick June 8, 2012 at 12:31 pm
For all to read, Kevin Milano's letter to the editor:
"I can not tell you how offended I was that my BZA allowed a strip club owner to conduct a 10+ minute rant about me at the hearing on May 23. The BZA allowed her to make defamatory comments towards me and the disturbing part was, by the chairmans own admission, ti had no place of relevance to the hearing. This, in my opinion, can only be to mask a renewal of the strip club owners lecense. Our BZA let these strip club owners supporters make negative comments about our children, stating all the problems in the area where the strip club is located is because of "those spoiled brat kids from Bellmore" They actually said that. Our BZA knows that these individuals from Suffolk COunty are operating a strip club in Bellmore across from one of our elementary schools, our public library, a place of worship and within feet of houses with children. In my opinion there is no way, by code and law, they should renew this license. From what I know, these strip club owners have no right to this lecense. Our appointed BZA has to give them a Special Exception and/or variance inorder for them to operate. As I said at the hearing, I don't care how many people the strip club owners provide "free drink and food" to obtain signatures of support. Our BZA has to protect our children and the character of our communities. They must think why this has gone on and correct a mistake." Unbelievable, to say the least.
Patrick June 8, 2012 at 01:12 pm
This letter is undisputable evidence that this campaign is for one thing, Kevin Milano. Never once in his letter did Kevin Milano even speak to the article written in the Citizen last week that detailed the proceedings. It was all about me, me, me. My BZA, 10+ minute rant about me, defamatory comments towards me. I was at the hearing, and all the information proffered was backed by fact. As you all can see, a hearing about a license renewal, has been encapsulated in 4 paragraphs that orbit around one thing, Kevin Milano. No disputing this. Our elementary shcools, our public library. If my information is correct, and it is, Kevin Milano does not live anywhere in the vacinity of any of these locations. When asked how this business has any direct effect on him, Kevin Milano could not say anything, nor could any of the four others in opposition. But this is all about HIM. I have never, ever seen anyone so self absorbed. How any credibility can be attached to anything Kevin Milano says is beyond me. He never once spoke to the information given at the hearing, just about how he was maligned. Everyone can have an opinion, and Kevin Milano has many, but they all seem to be about himself.

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